Re: FYI AppArmor abstraction for AMD proprietary driver

Christian Boltz <[email protected]> Mon, 10 Oct 2016 22:31:24 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.linux.suse.security
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hello,

Am Montag, 10. Oktober 2016, 00:15:51 CEST schrieb Malte Gell:
> Am 09.10.2016 um 17:45 schrieb Christian Boltz:
> > Can you please remove this rule and test if something complains?
> 
> Well, I have switched to the open source driver in Leap kernel 4.1,
> thus can´t test it.....
> The open source driver has a bit less performance, but is stable and
> lacks some bugs, the proprietary driver has.

Stable and a bit slower sounds better than buggy ;-)

> >>   /dev/video* rw,
> >>   /dev/ati/* rw,
> >>   /etc/ati r,
> > 
> > Same questions once more, this time for /etc/ati ;-)
> 
> I just added these permissions to satisfy AppArmor. Without setting
> these, I had some AA log entries.

I'd be quite surprised if the directory rules without trailing slash 
helped ;-)  (unless your profile is *very* old - the trailing slash 
requirement for directories was added to the apparmor.d manpage in April 
2007)

> >>   /etc/ati/** r,
> >>   /etc/ati/authatieventsd.sh Ux,
> > 
> > What does this script do?
> 
> This script grants access to some AMD "event daemon", I guess this
> thing checks for updates or maybe some hardware events triggered by
> the GPU, but this is just a guess.
> I have attached the script, so you can take a look at it. It looks
> pretty harmless to me.

It would still make sense not to run it unconfined, and create a profile 
for it instead. For example, I noticed several uses of unquoted $1, $2 
and $3 which could lead to funny[tm] results (no, I didn't test what 
could happen ;-)

[...]
> >>   /home/*/.AMD/ rwkl,
> >>   /home/*/.AMD/** rwkl,
> > 
> > Interesting - does the AMD driver really need write access in the
> > user's home directory? Or is it only needed by the config tool?
> > (assuming there is a config tool ;-)
> 
> Yes, there is a config tool. This directory is a cache directory for
> OpenGL stuff.
> The proprietary nVidia driver also uses a user space cache directory
> with the name ~/.nv/

Right, I should have checked that in abstractions/nvidia myself ;-)
(that said - a file cache for the screen content? seriously?)

> > If these rules are really needed, adding the "owner" conditional
> > would be a good idea to ensure it doesn't touch someone else' home
> > directory.
> Sure, using "owner" should be fine there.
> 
> But, AMD is working on a new generation of proprietary driver, they
> haven´t their current (=old) proprietary time for 10 months now!
> Kernel 4.4 and above has an updated AMD driver named amdgpu which will
> also be the basis for the new AMD proprietary driver. Thus, people
> with the latest AMD GPUs actually use the latest kernels, because
> they have the necessary support the old proprietary driver does not
> have.
> 
> In other words, folks who run the latest AMD GPU depend on the latest
> kernels and not the current (old) AMD prop stuff, thus the number of
> people using the current (= now old) AMD prop driver should be very,
> very small.
> 
> IMHO it may be best to wait until AMD releases their new generation
> proprietary driver and then adjust this AA rule. To add this rule to
> Leap 42.2 may not make much sense, because people with latest AMD GPU
> depend on the latest open source driver anyways....

I fully agree - this sounds like a moving target which isn't really used 
and tested, so waiting for a while is indeed a good idea.

Feel free to send an updated amdfglrx abstraction once you use the [new 
version of the] propietary AMD driver again ;-)


Regards,

Christian Boltz
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