Re: stock kernel 2.6.6 ftape driver, success with 2.4.25 stock kernel driver, 2.6.6 error log attached

Thomas Schorpp <[email protected]> Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:44:09 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.linux.tape
Message-ID <[email protected]>
hello guys

Agustin Martin wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 12:51:31AM +0200, Thomas Schorpp wrote:
> 

> The options I was referring to were in woody something like
> 
> # -----------------------
> #
> # load ftape/zftape automatically
> #
> 
> # valid for all versions with zftape
> 
> alias char-major-27     zftape
> 
> # For 2.2 kernels and hopefully above
> 
> options ftape ft_fdc_rate_limit=1000 ft_fdc_threshold=16 ft_fdc_base=0x360 ft_fdc_irq=9 ft_fdc_dma=3
> # -----------------------
> 
> (options line is a single line, it might have been splitted)
> 
> Had you success on using the 3.x module options following the procedure
> I mentioned in my mail with 2.6 kernel stock ftape modules?

check it on next meeting at my fathers house, havent got the equipment
here... and report, thank you very much.

> 
> Cheers,
> 

drive runs fine with ftape-tool with 2.4.25 kernel driver with 2.6.6 not 
at all (tried many fdc parms):


Sep  8 17:42:54 schorpp1 kernel: [000] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-init.c (ftape_init) - installing 
QIC-117 floppy tape hardware drive ... .
Sep  8 17:42:54 schorpp1 kernel: [001] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-init.c (ftape_init) - ftape_init @ 
0xe081d000.
Sep  8 17:42:54 schorpp1 kernel: [002] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-buffer.c (add_one_buffer) - buffer nr 
#1 @ df142d90, dma area @ c0330000.
Sep  8 17:42:54 schorpp1 kernel: [003] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-buffer.c (add_one_buffer) - buffer nr 
#2 @ df142d10, dma area @ c0378000.
Sep  8 17:42:54 schorpp1 kernel: [004] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-buffer.c (add_one_buffer) - buffer nr 
#3 @ df142c90, dma area @ c0008000.
Sep  8 17:42:54 schorpp1 kernel: [005] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-calibr.c (time_inb) - inb() duration: 
487 nsec.
Sep  8 17:42:54 schorpp1 kernel: [006] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-calibr.c (ftape_calibrate) - TC for 
`ftape_udelay()' = 100 nsec (at 5119 counts).
Sep  8 17:42:54 schorpp1 kernel: [007] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-calibr.c (ftape_calibrate) - TC for 
`fdc_wait()' = 1128357 nsec (at 319 counts).

Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: ftape v3.04d 25/11/97
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: (c) 1993-1996 Bas Laarhoven ([email protected])
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: (c) 1995-1996 Kai Harrekilde-Petersen 
([email protected])
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: (c) 1996-1997 Claus-Justus Heine 
([email protected])
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: QIC-117 driver for QIC-40/80/3010/3020 
floppy tape drives
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: Compiled for Linux version 2.6.6-1-k7
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: [000] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-init.c (ftape_init) - installing 
QIC-117 floppy tape hardware drive ... .
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: [001] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-init.c (ftape_init) - ftape_init @ 
0xe0a6b000.
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: [002] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-buffer.c (add_one_buffer) - buffer nr 
#1 @ de369390, dma area @ c0330000.
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: [003] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-buffer.c (add_one_buffer) - buffer nr 
#2 @ de369090, dma area @ c0378000.
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: [004] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-buffer.c (add_one_buffer) - buffer nr 
#3 @ de369510, dma area @ c0008000.
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: [005] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-calibr.c (time_inb) - inb() duration: 
487 nsec.
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: [006] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-calibr.c (ftape_calibrate) - TC for 
`ftape_udelay()' = 100 nsec (at 5119 counts).
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: [007] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-calibr.c (ftape_calibrate) - TC for 
`fdc_wait()' = 1128354 nsec (at 319 counts).
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: zftape for ftape v3.04d 25/11/97
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: (c) 1996, 1997 Claus-Justus Heine 
([email protected])
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: vfs interface for ftape floppy tape driver.
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: Support for QIC-113 compatible volume 
table, dynamic memory allocation
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: and builtin compression (lzrw3 algorithm).
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: Compiled for Linux version 2.6.6-1-k7
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: [008] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_init) - zft_init @ 0xe0a6b000.
Sep  8 17:56:22 schorpp1 kernel: [009] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_init) - installing zftape 
VFS interface for ftape driver ....
Sep  8 17:57:32 schorpp1 kernel: [010] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - fdc base: 0x3f0, 
irq: 6, dma: 2.
Sep  8 17:57:32 schorpp1 kernel: [011] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config_regs) - 
fdc_request_regions() failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:32 schorpp1 kernel: [012] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - 
fdc_config_regs(ft_fdc_base, ft_fdc_irq, ft_fdc_dma) failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:32 schorpp1 kernel: [013] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_init) - fdc_config() failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:32 schorpp1 kernel: [014] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-ctl.c (ftape_enable) - fdc_init() 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:32 schorpp1 kernel: [015] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-ctl.c (_zft_open) - ftape_enable 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:32 schorpp1 kernel: [016] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_open) - _ftape_open failed.
Sep  8 17:57:42 schorpp1 kernel: [017] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - fdc base: 0x3f0, 
irq: 6, dma: 2.
Sep  8 17:57:42 schorpp1 kernel: [018] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config_regs) - 
fdc_request_regions() failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:42 schorpp1 kernel: [019] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - 
fdc_config_regs(ft_fdc_base, ft_fdc_irq, ft_fdc_dma) failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:42 schorpp1 kernel: [020] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_init) - fdc_config() failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:42 schorpp1 kernel: [021] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-ctl.c (ftape_enable) - fdc_init() 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:42 schorpp1 kernel: [022] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-ctl.c (_zft_open) - ftape_enable 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:42 schorpp1 kernel: [023] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_open) - _ftape_open failed.
Sep  8 17:57:51 schorpp1 kernel: [024] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - fdc base: 0x3f0, 
irq: 6, dma: 2.
Sep  8 17:57:51 schorpp1 kernel: [025] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config_regs) - 
fdc_request_regions() failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:51 schorpp1 kernel: [026] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - 
fdc_config_regs(ft_fdc_base, ft_fdc_irq, ft_fdc_dma) failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:51 schorpp1 kernel: [027] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_init) - fdc_config() failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:51 schorpp1 kernel: [028] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-ctl.c (ftape_enable) - fdc_init() 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:51 schorpp1 kernel: [029] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-ctl.c (_zft_open) - ftape_enable 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 17:57:51 schorpp1 kernel: [030] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_open) - _ftape_open failed.

Sep  8 18:01:35 schorpp1 kernel: ftape v3.04d 25/11/97
Sep  8 18:01:35 schorpp1 kernel: (c) 1993-1996 Bas Laarhoven ([email protected])
Sep  8 18:01:35 schorpp1 kernel: (c) 1995-1996 Kai Harrekilde-Petersen 
([email protected])
Sep  8 18:01:35 schorpp1 kernel: (c) 1996-1997 Claus-Justus Heine 
([email protected])
Sep  8 18:01:35 schorpp1 kernel: QIC-117 driver for QIC-40/80/3010/3020 
floppy tape drives
Sep  8 18:01:35 schorpp1 kernel: Compiled for Linux version 2.6.6-1-k7
Sep  8 18:01:35 schorpp1 kernel: [000] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-init.c (ftape_init) - installing 
QIC-117 floppy tape hardware drive ... .
Sep  8 18:01:35 schorpp1 kernel: [001] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-init.c (ftape_init) - ftape_init @ 
0xe0a6b000.
Sep  8 18:01:35 schorpp1 kernel: [002] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-buffer.c (add_one_buffer) - buffer nr 
#1 @ d43b9110, dma area @ c0330000.
Sep  8 18:01:35 schorpp1 kernel: [003] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-buffer.c (add_one_buffer) - buffer nr 
#2 @ d43b9090, dma area @ c0378000.
Sep  8 18:01:35 schorpp1 kernel: [004] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-buffer.c (add_one_buffer) - buffer nr 
#3 @ de369090, dma area @ c0008000.
Sep  8 18:01:35 schorpp1 kernel: [005] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-calibr.c (time_inb) - inb() duration: 
486 nsec.
Sep  8 18:01:36 schorpp1 kernel: [006] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-calibr.c (ftape_calibrate) - TC for 
`ftape_udelay()' = 100 nsec (at 5119 counts).
Sep  8 18:01:36 schorpp1 kernel: [007] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-calibr.c (ftape_calibrate) - TC for 
`fdc_wait()' = 1128357 nsec (at 319 counts).
Sep  8 18:01:48 schorpp1 kernel: zftape for ftape v3.04d 25/11/97
Sep  8 18:01:48 schorpp1 kernel: (c) 1996, 1997 Claus-Justus Heine 
([email protected])
Sep  8 18:01:48 schorpp1 kernel: vfs interface for ftape floppy tape driver.
Sep  8 18:01:48 schorpp1 kernel: Support for QIC-113 compatible volume 
table, dynamic memory allocation
Sep  8 18:01:48 schorpp1 kernel: and builtin compression (lzrw3 algorithm).
Sep  8 18:01:48 schorpp1 kernel: Compiled for Linux version 2.6.6-1-k7
Sep  8 18:01:48 schorpp1 kernel: [008] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_init) - zft_init @ 0xe0a6b000.
Sep  8 18:01:48 schorpp1 kernel: [009] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_init) - installing zftape 
VFS interface for ftape driver ....
Sep  8 18:03:09 schorpp1 kernel: [010] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - fdc base: 0x360, 
irq: 9, dma: 3.
Sep  8 18:03:09 schorpp1 kernel: [011] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_grab_irq_and_dma) - Unable to 
grab IRQ9 for ftape driver.
Sep  8 18:03:09 schorpp1 kernel: [012] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_init) - fdc_grab_irq_and_dma() 
failed: -5.
Sep  8 18:03:09 schorpp1 kernel: [013] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-ctl.c (ftape_enable) - fdc_init() 
failed: -5.
Sep  8 18:03:09 schorpp1 kernel: [014] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-ctl.c (_zft_open) - ftape_enable 
failed: -5.
Sep  8 18:03:09 schorpp1 kernel: [015] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_open) - _ftape_open failed.

Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: ftape v3.04d 25/11/97
Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: (c) 1993-1996 Bas Laarhoven ([email protected])
Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: (c) 1995-1996 Kai Harrekilde-Petersen 
([email protected])
Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: (c) 1996-1997 Claus-Justus Heine 
([email protected])
Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: QIC-117 driver for QIC-40/80/3010/3020 
floppy tape drives
Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: Compiled for Linux version 2.6.6-1-k7
Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: [000] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-init.c (ftape_init) - installing 
QIC-117 floppy tape hardware drive ... .
Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: [001] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-init.c (ftape_init) - ftape_init @ 
0xe0a6b000.
Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: [002] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-buffer.c (add_one_buffer) - buffer nr 
#1 @ d403b110, dma area @ c0330000.
Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: [003] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-buffer.c (add_one_buffer) - buffer nr 
#2 @ d403b090, dma area @ c0378000.
Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: [004] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-buffer.c (add_one_buffer) - buffer nr 
#3 @ d403be90, dma area @ c0008000.
Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: [005] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-calibr.c (time_inb) - inb() duration: 
486 nsec.
Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: [006] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-calibr.c (ftape_calibrate) - TC for 
`ftape_udelay()' = 100 nsec (at 5119 counts).
Sep  8 18:06:28 schorpp1 kernel: [007] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-calibr.c (ftape_calibrate) - TC for 
`fdc_wait()' = 1128357 nsec (at 319 counts).
Sep  8 18:06:33 schorpp1 kernel: zftape for ftape v3.04d 25/11/97
Sep  8 18:06:33 schorpp1 kernel: (c) 1996, 1997 Claus-Justus Heine 
([email protected])
Sep  8 18:06:33 schorpp1 kernel: vfs interface for ftape floppy tape driver.
Sep  8 18:06:33 schorpp1 kernel: Support for QIC-113 compatible volume 
table, dynamic memory allocation
Sep  8 18:06:33 schorpp1 kernel: and builtin compression (lzrw3 algorithm).
Sep  8 18:06:33 schorpp1 kernel: Compiled for Linux version 2.6.6-1-k7
Sep  8 18:06:33 schorpp1 kernel: [008] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_init) - zft_init @ 0xe0a6b000.
Sep  8 18:06:33 schorpp1 kernel: [009] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_init) - installing zftape 
VFS interface for ftape driver ....
Sep  8 18:06:41 schorpp1 kernel: zftape compressor v1.00a 970514 for 
ftape v3.04d 25/11/97
Sep  8 18:06:41 schorpp1 kernel: (c) 1997 Claus-Justus Heine 
([email protected])
Sep  8 18:06:41 schorpp1 kernel: Compressor for zftape (lzrw3 algorithm)
Sep  8 18:06:41 schorpp1 kernel: Compiled for kernel version 2.6.6-1-k7
Sep  8 18:06:41 schorpp1 kernel: [010] 
drivers/char/ftape/compressor/zftape-compress.c (zft_compressor_init) - 
zft_compressor_init @ 0xe0bfe680.
Sep  8 18:06:41 schorpp1 kernel: [011] 
drivers/char/ftape/compressor/zftape-compress.c (zft_compressor_init) - 
installing compressor for zftape ....
Sep  8 18:07:05 schorpp1 kernel: [012] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - fdc base: 0x3f0, 
irq: 6, dma: 2.
Sep  8 18:07:05 schorpp1 kernel: [013] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config_regs) - 
fdc_request_regions() failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:05 schorpp1 kernel: [014] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - 
fdc_config_regs(ft_fdc_base, ft_fdc_irq, ft_fdc_dma) failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:05 schorpp1 kernel: [015] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_init) - fdc_config() failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:05 schorpp1 kernel: [016] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-ctl.c (ftape_enable) - fdc_init() 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:05 schorpp1 kernel: [017] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-ctl.c (_zft_open) - ftape_enable 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:05 schorpp1 kernel: [018] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_open) - _ftape_open failed.
Sep  8 18:07:22 schorpp1 kernel: [019] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - fdc base: 0x3f0, 
irq: 6, dma: 2.
Sep  8 18:07:22 schorpp1 kernel: [020] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config_regs) - 
fdc_request_regions() failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:22 schorpp1 kernel: [021] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - 
fdc_config_regs(ft_fdc_base, ft_fdc_irq, ft_fdc_dma) failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:22 schorpp1 kernel: [022] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_init) - fdc_config() failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:22 schorpp1 kernel: [023] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-ctl.c (ftape_enable) - fdc_init() 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:22 schorpp1 kernel: [024] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-ctl.c (_zft_open) - ftape_enable 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:22 schorpp1 kernel: [025] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_open) - _ftape_open failed.
Sep  8 18:07:38 schorpp1 kernel: [026] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - fdc base: 0x3f0, 
irq: 6, dma: 2.
Sep  8 18:07:38 schorpp1 kernel: [027] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config_regs) - 
fdc_request_regions() failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:38 schorpp1 kernel: [028] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - 
fdc_config_regs(ft_fdc_base, ft_fdc_irq, ft_fdc_dma) failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:38 schorpp1 kernel: [029] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_init) - fdc_config() failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:38 schorpp1 kernel: [030] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-ctl.c (ftape_enable) - fdc_init() 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:38 schorpp1 kernel: [031] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-ctl.c (_zft_open) - ftape_enable 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:07:38 schorpp1 kernel: [032] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_open) - _ftape_open failed.
Sep  8 18:08:01 schorpp1 /USR/SBIN/CRON[2863]: (news) CMD (if [ -x 
/etc/news/leafnode/do-fetch-news ]; then 
/etc/news/leafnode/do-fetch-news; fi)
Sep  8 18:08:33 schorpp1 kernel: [033] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - fdc base: 0x3f0, 
irq: 6, dma: 2.
Sep  8 18:08:33 schorpp1 kernel: [034] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config_regs) - 
fdc_request_regions() failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:08:33 schorpp1 kernel: [035] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_config) - 
fdc_config_regs(ft_fdc_base, ft_fdc_irq, ft_fdc_dma) failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:08:33 schorpp1 kernel: [036] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/fdc-io.c (fdc_init) - fdc_config() failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:08:33 schorpp1 kernel: [037] 
drivers/char/ftape/lowlevel/ftape-ctl.c (ftape_enable) - fdc_init() 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:08:33 schorpp1 kernel: [038] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-ctl.c (_zft_open) - ftape_enable 
failed: -16.
Sep  8 18:08:33 schorpp1 kernel: [039] 
drivers/char/ftape/zftape/zftape-init.c (zft_open) - _ftape_open failed.


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