Re: LTSP joining the worldwide patent non-agression community
James McQuillan <[email protected]> Wed, 4 Dec 2013 15:34:45 -0500
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--===============0943438001000023366== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bea41fef719b704ecbb578c --047d7bea41fef719b704ecbb578c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Valer, Sorry I've been dragging my feet on this. The problem is, LTSP is a fairly loose bunch of developers without any kind of corporation or legal entity overseeing it. I'm the founder and project leader, but I didn't feel comfortable just jumping in and agreeing, without getting some feedback from other LTSP developers. I've sent out an email to our dev mailing list, sharing your information. I expect that nobody will have a problem with it, but I'd like to give it a couple of days, just to see what people have to say. Let's say that by next monday, Dec 9th we touch base, and if everybody's Ok with it, I'll go ahead and sign the agreement on behalf of LTSP? Jim McQuillan [email protected] On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM, James McQuillan <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey guys, > > I've been approached by someone from the Open Invention Network about LTSP > joining a community of organizations pledging not to use patents against > each other over Linux system technology. > > There's some big players in the OIN community and I'm inclined to join, > but I just wanted to pass it by you guys to get your opinion. maybe i'm > missing something. > > If anybody has any thoughts, concerns or objections, please let me know. > > Thanks, > Jim McQuillan > [email protected] > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Valer Mischenko <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:51 PM > Subject: LTSP joining the worldwide patent non-agression community > To: [email protected] > > > Hi Jim, > > My name is Valer and I am writing to you on behalf of the Open Invention > Network (www.openinventionnetwork.com). Our mission is to support > projects like LTSP developing or using Linux-related technology by > deterring patent aggression. > > We do this through a community that pledges not to assert patents against > each other over Linux System technology. This pledge covers over 2,100 Open > Source packages. It is structured to reduce risk on core operating system > and middleware technologies. More than 600 companies and projects from all > areas of technology creation, deployment and use have joined our community > so far. > > (BTW, until shortly I worked as director of NLnet Foundation. There from > we have supported one of LTSP projects, namely LTSP-Cluster of Benoit des > Ligneris. I have signed the agreement with OIN in the name of NLnet half a > year ago). > > The OIN community is free to join. The only thing we want is a pledge that > you would never use patents aggressively against the Linux System. That's a > symbolic gesture for most projects but it remains very important for our > work. Participation with OIN also brings you an experienced, well-funded > friend if you are approached by aggressive third parties. > > You may be interested in our community credentials and to get some more > context about our work. > > Here is an endorsement from Eben Moglen, Chairman of the Software Freedom > Law Center: > http://emoglen.law.columbia.edu/now/organizations/OIN > > Here is an endorsement from Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the Linux > Foundation: > > http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/jzemlin/2009/09/09/protecting-linux-from-microsoft-yesmicrosoft-got-caught/ > > We are passionate supporters of the Linux System and open innovation. I > hope we can work together by welcoming you to our non-aggression community. > Every single voice helps us face current market challenges while investing > in a more collaborative future. > > Attached is a very short overview of OIN + FAQs, but I am happy to answer > any questions and to explain in more detail why the pledge of Linux System > and open source patent non-aggression is so important for open innovation. > > Regards, > > Valer Mischenko, > Open Invention Network, > EMEA representative. > > --047d7bea41fef719b704ecbb578c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Valer,<div><br></div><div>Sorry I've been dragging my = feet on this.</div><div><br></div><div>The problem is, =A0LTSP is a fairly = loose bunch of developers without any kind of corporation or legal entity o= verseeing it.</div> <div><br></div><div>I'm the founder and project leader, but I didn'= t feel comfortable just jumping in and agreeing, without getting some feedb= ack from other LTSP developers.</div><div><br></div><div>I've sent out = an email to our dev mailing list, sharing your information.</div> <div><br></div><div>I expect that nobody will have a problem with it, but I= 'd like to give it a couple of days, just to see what people have to sa= y.</div><div><br></div><div>Let's say that by next monday, Dec 9th we t= ouch base, and if everybody's Ok with it, I'll go ahead and sign th= e agreement on behalf of LTSP?</div> <div><br></div><div>Jim McQuillan</div><div>[email protected]</div><div><br></di= v></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On We= d, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM, James McQuillan <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D= "mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<= br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hey guys,<div><br></div><di= v>I've been approached by someone from the Open Invention Network about= LTSP joining a community of organizations pledging not to use patents agai= nst each other over Linux system technology.</div> <div><br></div><div>There's some big players in the OIN community and I= 'm inclined to join, but I just wanted to pass it by you guys to get yo= ur opinion. =A0maybe i'm missing something.</div><div><br></div><div> If anybody has any thoughts, concerns or objections, please let me know.</d= iv><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Jim McQuillan</div><div>[email protected]= rg</div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gm= ail_quote"> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br> From: <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Valer Mischenko</b> <span dir=3D"ltr">&= lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"= >[email protected]</a>></span><br>Date: Mon, Oct 7, 20= 13 at 1:51 PM<br> Subject: LTSP joining the worldwide patent non-agression community<br> To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br><= br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Jim,<br><br>My name is Valer and I am writi= ng to you on behalf of=20 the Open Invention Network (<a href=3D"http://www.openinventionnetwork.com"= target=3D"_blank">www.openinventionnetwork.com</a>). Our mission is to sup= port projects=20 like LTSP developing or using Linux-related technology by=20 deterring patent aggression.<br> <br>We do this through a community that pledges not to assert patents=20 against each other over Linux System technology. This pledge covers over 2,100 Open Source packages. It is structured to reduce risk on core=20 operating system and middleware technologies. More than 600 companies=20 and projects from all areas of technology creation, deployment and use=20 have joined our community so far.<br><br></div>(BTW, until shortly I worked= as director of NLnet Foundation. There from we have supported one of LTSP = projects, namely LTSP-Cluster of Benoit des Ligneris. I have signed the agr= eement with OIN in the name of NLnet half a year ago).<br> <div> <br>The OIN community is free to join. The only thing we want is a pledge= =20 that you would never use patents aggressively against the Linux System.=20 That's a symbolic gesture for most projects but it remains very=20 important for our work. Participation with OIN also brings you an=20 experienced, well-funded friend if you are approached by aggressive=20 third parties.<br> <br>You may be interested in our community credentials and to get some more= context about our work.<br><br>Here is an endorsement from Eben Moglen, Ch= airman of the Software Freedom Law Center:<br><a href=3D"http://emoglen.law= .columbia.edu/now/organizations/OIN" target=3D"_blank">http://emoglen.law.c= olumbia.edu/now/organizations/OIN</a><br> <br>Here is an endorsement from Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the Linux= Foundation:<br><a href=3D"http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/jzemlin/= 2009/09/09/protecting-linux-from-microsoft-yesmicrosoft-got-caught/" target= =3D"_blank">http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/jzemlin/2009/09/09/prot= ecting-linux-from-microsoft-yesmicrosoft-got-caught/</a><br> <br>We are passionate supporters of the Linux System and open=20 innovation. I hope we can work together by welcoming you to our=20 non-aggression community. Every single voice helps us face current=20 market challenges while investing in a more collaborative future.<br> <br>Attached is a very short overview of OIN + FAQs, but I am happy to=20 answer any questions and to explain in more detail why the pledge of=20 Linux System and open source patent non-aggression is so important for=20 open innovation.<br> <br>Regards,<br><br>Valer Mischenko,<br>Open Invention Network,<br>EMEA rep= resentative.</div></div> </div><br></div></div></div></div> </blockquote></div><br></div> --047d7bea41fef719b704ecbb578c-- --===============0943438001000023366== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. 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