Re: Announcing LTSP 19.08

Hi Rolf,

in about a month, I think the new LTSP will be more stable than the old 
one, and it will surely be more actively developed and maintained.
E.g. I'm hearing about LTSP5 issues with Buster Gnome; I don't see any 
in the new LTSP.
So for new installations people might want to use the new LTSP even now.

Both LTSP versions can be installed in parallel. There is no automatic 
migration or update from LTSP 5 to the new version.
To install the new LTSP, one would follow:
https://github.com/ltsp/ltsp/wiki/installation

To select which LTSP version the clients will use, do the following.
To activate LTSP5:
rm -f /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-dnsmasq.conf
ltsp-config --overwrite dnsmasq

To activate the new LTSP:
rm -f /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf
ltsp --overwrite dnsmasq

If after some time people see that they don't need the old LTSP, they 
can remove it using something like:
apt purge --auto-remove ldm ldm-server ldm-ubuntu-theme \
ltsp-client ltsp-client-core ltsp-server ltsp-server-standalone \
ltspfs ltspfsd ltspfsd-core

Note that each version uses different directories and lts.conf / 
ltsp.conf configuration files; so one would have to rewrite ltsp.conf 
from scratch while looking at the supported ltsp.conf options from the 
man page, and maybe `cp -a` his chroots, if he's not using chrootless.

Regarding ltsp.org, I try to minimize the effort I put in the projects I 
maintain, and caring about a domain is effort (and a tiny amount of 
money, especially if one maintains many projects). I could be convinced 
to map ltsp.org to ltsp.github.io though, if the original LTSP authors 
or the LTSP users feel it's better.

Note that the discussion for the new LTSP continues in github:
https://github.com/ltsp/community/issues/4

I've already sent updated announcements there about new PPA builds that 
add support for xorg.conf options, local swap, passwordless logins etc.

Regards,
Alkis


On 8/20/19 9:37 AM, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> Congratulations, Alkis!
> 
> Sounds really interesting. When it's ready, will it update automatically 
> or will an LTSP5 rest to be as it is?
> 
> Another question: Why didn't you connect the new site to the old 
> ltsp.org site? (I know, we had this discussion, just forgot the reason 
> why...)
> 
> Regards
> Rolf
> 
> 
> Am 18.08.19 um 20:22 schrieb Alkis Georgopoulos:
>> LTSP 19.08 has been released! Read the full announcement with all the 
>> features and changes, and join the discussion here:
>> https://github.com/ltsp/community/issues/4
>>
>> In short, LTSP has been redesigned and rewritten from scratch as part 
>> of a GSoC 2019 project. Many thanks to everyone involved for this 
>> opportunity to radically improve LTSP!
>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/projects/#4558570069164032
>>
>> LTSP 19.08 is an alpha release that can be installed in parallel with 
>> the older LTSP5 version. The plan is to reach stable by the end of 
>> September, so I'll actively try to fix any issues you report:
>> https://github.com/ltsp/ltsp/wiki/installation
>>
>> Please also note that all the existing LTSP sites and mailing lists 
>> will now only be used for the older LTSP5 and receive minimal 
>> maintenance. For the new sites and discussion methods see the new main 
>> site:
>> https://ltsp.github.io
>>
>> I.e. please do not reply to this email unless you don't like github; 
>> otherwise, all discussions for the new LTSP should happen on the 
>> github ltsp community site:
>> https://github.com/ltsp/community/issues
>> Feel free to open new issues and ask whatever you want there; the plan 
>> is to use it instead of a mailing list, so we want to be relaxed, not 
>> formal.
>> I will continue cross-posting announcements and replying to the 
>> sourceforge mailing lists for a while though, until LTSP users get 
>> familiarized with the new methods.
>>
>> Hope you like the new LTSP,
>> Alkis Georgopoulos
>>


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