Re: Help in designing ltsp.github.io

Hi Dashamir,

this list is just for the old LTSP5 now; let's use github community 
issues for discussing the new LTSP:
https://github.com/ltsp/community/issues

I don't think the new LTSP can be called a "fork", as it's the official 
next version of LTSP 5, coming from the same developers/maintainers that 
worked on LTSP 5 in the last years.
It's a complete rewrite, but not a fork; a fork is an unofficial 
diversion coming from some other team than a program's upstream team.

Quick answers:
1. I deployed it to 6 schools so far; around 50 will have it till 
Christmas; and probably 1000+ will get it until next September with 
Ubuntu 20.04 or Debian Buster.

2. PXE is the protocol.
PXE stack is the program that the BIOS/UEFI has for netbooting.
iPXE is a program that either uses the existing PXE stack 
(undionly.kpxe/snponly.efi),
or implements the PXE stack itself (ipxe.pxe/ipxe.efi/ipxe.lkrn),
so that advanced features like menus and kernel loading are supported.

I.e. iPXE doesn't replace PXE, as PXE was never able to load a kernel.

It replaces pxelinux.0 (from the syslinux package) in LTSP5, because 
pxelinux doesn't support variables and its UEFI support was rather 
unstable in my tests. UEFI clients are much more frequent now, so UEFI 
support was a must for the new LTSP.

Grubefinet could have been used instead, but it was too large, slow, and 
a bit more unstable than iPXE.

If someone wants to use pxelinux.0 with the new LTSP, they just need to 
write a couple of lines in a pxelinux.cfg/default file, it's very easy, 
as now the kernel/initrd names are always the same, "vmlinuz" and 
"initrd.img".

Let's continue in github issues. :)

Cheers,
Alkis


On 9/29/19 6:59 PM, Dashamir Hoxha wrote:
> Alkis,
> 
> First of all the new LTSP seems to be great (more simple and modern than 
> LTSP5).
> I think it was the right decision to fork it because the old LTSP has 
> too much legacy code, and it is not sure even if someone is still using 
> them.
> Besides, moving to a universal collaboration platform like GitHub 
> (finally) is also an improvement on itself. (If you asked me I would 
> have suggested GitLab, anyway they are both great.)
> 
> I would be interested in helping with the website, but right now I am 
> busy. After a couple of months maybe I will have more time. Anyway, 
> using a Jekyll template to build a GitHub page is a task that anyone can 
> do. By the way, GitLab pages are more advanced than GitHub, because they 
> allow you to use any static site generator that you wish, for example 
> Hugo, which is simpler and faster than Jekyll, or MkDocs.
> 
> I have a few questions:
> 1. Are the Greek schools using the new LTSP already?
> 2. iPXE is of course better than PXE, but is it also supported by old 
> hardware (since it seems to be newer)?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dashamir
> 
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 8:01 AM Alkis Georgopoulos <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     Forwarded from https://github.com/ltsp/community/issues/21 (reply there)
> 
>     The old ltsp.org <http://ltsp.org> site is getting deprecated and
>     the new ltsp.github.io <http://ltsp.github.io>
>     takes its place.
> 
>     Currently, the new site is just a summary and a collection of links.
>     I'm
>     thinking we could use the github infrastructure to make it similar to
>     https://www.mkdocs.org or http://www.epoptes.org.
> 
>     We could also program a supybot to join our IRC channel and publish
>     http://irclogs.ltsp.org in a github repository.
> 
>     As I'm currently spending all my time on the LTSP code development,
>     help
>     on these areas would be greatly appreciated by the community. Anyone
>     interested may reply here (https://github.com/ltsp/community/issues/21)
>     or even talk to me on IRC or over email.
> 
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