Re: Remote Access for LTSP Clients?

Matt Walters <matt.walters-Tn53n/[email protected]> Thu, 18 Jun 2020 08:37:01 -0400
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Joseph, my LTSP servers are VMs themselves. The host machine can be the
LTSP server, though, and we have done that in the past. The VM boots as a
client just like normal ones, you just need to make sure the VM has access
to the same network as the normal clients, which will depend on your
configuration and is outside of the scope of what I can help with here :)
How you configure the VMs to netboot depends on the hypervisor... libvirtd
and virtualbox are capable of netbooting VMs, though.

Matthew Walters
IT Manager, People Places
matt.walters-Tn53n/[email protected]
(540) 885-8841 x420
www.peopleplaces.org



On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 5:34 PM Joseph Bishay <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thank you for this suggestion.  Is your VM running on the LTSP server
> itself or could it be another machine?  I know nearly nothing about VMs -=
-
> how would you get the VM to boot as a LTSP client?
>
> Thank you,
> Joseph
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:40 PM Matt Walters <
> matt.walters-Tn53n/[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joseph,
>>
>> We use kvm/qemu virtualization in our environments, and I have a VM that
>> acts as an LTSP client. You can connect to qemu using virt-manager over
>> ssh, and then connect to the VM console. That's worked well for me for s=
ome
>> time.
>>
>> Matthew Walters
>> IT Manager, People Places
>> matt.walters-Tn53n/[email protected]
>> (540) 885-8841 x420
>> www.peopleplaces.org
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:47 PM Joseph Bishay <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I hope you are all doing very well today.
>>>
>>> I am running LTSP 19.12 using a base installation of Desktop
>>> Ubuntu-Mate.  Everything is running very smoothly.
>>>
>>> Sometimes I need to help someone to print or talk them through how to d=
o
>>> something on Libre Office, or a client isn't booting, etc.  I'm a volun=
teer
>>> so I'm not at the school during the day.  Is there a way I can remote i=
n
>>> and see the way that a thin client does?  I already have X2Go set up so=
 I
>>> can open a session on the server no problem.  However I am not sure if =
the
>>> X2Go session is the same as the LTSP client session.  Also it doesn't h=
elp
>>> when a LTSP client can't boot.
>>>
>>> Any recommendations?
>>>
>>> Thank you so much,
>>> Joseph
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Joseph, my LTSP servers are VMs themselves. The host machi=
ne can be the LTSP server, though, and we have done that in the past. The V=
M boots as a client just like normal ones, you just need to make sure the V=
M has access to the same network as the normal clients, which will depend o=
n your configuration and is outside of the scope of what I can help with he=
re :) How you configure the VMs to netboot depends on the hypervisor... lib=
virtd and virtualbox are capable of netbooting VMs, though.<div><div>=C2=A0=
<div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmai=
l_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Matthew Walters</div><div>IT Manager, Pe=
ople Places</div><div><a href=3D"mailto:matt.walters-Tn53n/[email protected]" targ=
et=3D"_blank">matt.walters-Tn53n/[email protected]</a></div><div>(540) 885-8841 x4=
20</div><div><a href=3D"http://www.peopleplaces.org" target=3D"_blank">www.=
peopleplaces.org</a><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br></div></=
div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gm=
ail_attr">On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 5:34 PM Joseph Bishay &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>He=
llo,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for this suggestion.=C2=A0 Is your =
VM running on the LTSP server itself or could it be another machine?=C2=A0 =
I know nearly nothing about VMs -- how would you get the VM to boot as a LT=
SP client?</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you,</div><div>Joseph</div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun =
17, 2020 at 1:40 PM Matt Walters &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:matt.walters@peoplep=
laces.org" target=3D"_blank">matt.walters-Tn53n/[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Hi Joseph,<div><br></div><div>We use kvm/qemu virtualization in our environ=
ments, and I have a VM that acts as an LTSP client. You can connect to qemu=
=C2=A0using virt-manager over ssh, and then connect to the VM console. That=
&#39;s worked well for me for some time.</div><div><br clear=3D"all"><div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Matthew Walters</div><div>IT Manager,=
 People Places</div><div><a href=3D"mailto:matt.walters-Tn53n/[email protected]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">matt.walters-Tn53n/[email protected]</a></div><div>(540) 885-8841=
 x420</div><div><a href=3D"http://www.peopleplaces.org" target=3D"_blank">w=
ww.peopleplaces.org</a><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br></div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:47 PM Joseph Bishay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:josep=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Hello,<div><br></div><div>I hope you are all doing very well today.</div=
><div><br></div><div>I am running LTSP 19.12 using a base installation of D=
esktop Ubuntu-Mate.=C2=A0 Everything is running very smoothly.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Sometimes I need to help someone to print or talk them through=
 how to do something on Libre Office, or a client isn&#39;t booting, etc.=
=C2=A0 I&#39;m a volunteer so I&#39;m not at the school during the day.=C2=
=A0 Is there a way I can remote in and see the way that a thin client does?=
=C2=A0 I already have X2Go set up so I can open a session on the server no =
problem.=C2=A0 However I am not sure if the X2Go session is the same as the=
 LTSP client session.=C2=A0 Also it doesn&#39;t help when a LTSP client can=
&#39;t boot.</div><div><br></div><div>Any recommendations?</div><div><br></=
div><div>Thank you so much,</div><div>Joseph</div></div>
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