Re: A Linux Newbie's Main Issue With Linux

"Renan G. Galang" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.usability.annoyances
Organization NEC Telecom Software Philippines - Manila
Message-ID <019001c366db$45963a10$cf64a8c0@APU>
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Wisse" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Annoyances] A Linux Newbie's Main Issue With Linux


> On Tuesday 19 August 2003 16:59, Johnathan Bailes wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:38, Bill Wisse wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 19 August 2003 04:01, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > >
> > >  Sorry, I disagree with that. IMVHO dependency problems have nothing
to
> > > do with RPM's per se. It is a Linux annoyance.
> > > If a dependency problem excist it will come up when using RPM but ALSO
> > > when you using TAR.
> >
> > Yes!  Thank you.  I am so tired of hearing about rpm dependency hell.  I
> > have run into pkgadd dependency hell in Solaris if I did not get all
> > deps on something from solarisfreeware (download it and the deps and
> > only grab the app pkg when I got to install for example).
> >
>
> >
> > Am I the only that sees the logic with this?
>
> Maybe you are :-)
>
> Let me point this out first. I'm a very satisfied user of SuSE (8.2). And
all
> the annoyances with Linux mean nothing to me if I compare it with my
friend's
> M$ XP. He spend the whole weekend to get rid of that Blaster virus!!!!!!!!

-- huh? that long? you only have to kill the blast.exe process and delete it
from the
drive -- that's it. install the patch, don't install the patch (activate the
firewall though) --
doesn't matter. just delete the file...

>
> Back to Linux (rpm) and dependencies.
> When I buy my SuSE cdrom's ( with RPM's) there is NOT one dependency
problem!
> If it can work for all those programs together, why can't it work for one
> single program?
> Or am I shortsighted?

-- maybe because those programs came as a "packaged" thingie. SuSe *had* to
test each
and every one of those apps (making sure they'd coexist) before releasing
that cdrom. try
installing php tars with ldap, mcrypt, mhash and a whole host of extensions
that seem to
believe the world revolves around them -- the word "hell" in dependency hell
will become clearer. :)

but still, dependency hell hasn't driven me away from linux. i still think
it's the best development
platform out there.

> -- 
> Greetings from
>
> /bill at 169 west , 19 south.
>
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> transmission errors."
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