Re: graphical file managers

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On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 04:30, Reilly Burke wrote:
> Pablo Vieira wrote:
> > I'm sure it's your honest opinion, but calling Explorer "totally
> > unusable" must be a joke.
> > 
> > Linux definitely lacks a holistic definition of user interaction. The
> > current mess is keeping too many people from even trying this OS.
> > 
> > p
> > 
> > 
> >
> 
> This goes back to many peoples' original annoyances with Linux (before 
> this thread became YALHTTR (Yet Another Linux Holier-Than-Thou Rant). 
> Face it, Linux is confused and grumpy.  From Cut'n'Paste, to floppy 
> mounting, to RPM confusion, to pppd, to how-to mans, Linux has too much 
> confusion.  It's essentially thoughtless.  The folks who do all the work 
> have no idea what it's like to live with this infernal OS.
> 
> Before going on a geek rant, please accept that we use lots of Linux in 
> our office. But only for tasks which require no human intervention. 
> Just try dealing with CorelDraw files, DOS accounting systems, thousands 
> of spam messages daily, files on floppies, Excel files, on-line video, 
> laptop computers, dot matrix printers, broken Linux applications etc, 
> for just a week, and you'll be ready to throw Linux into the river. 
> Don't tell me that these problems are not Linux, they're X or whatever. 
>   My mind is made up. I don't want to hear it.  Windows, and Windows 
> applications like Explorer or CorelDraw or Word, are way more 
> thoughtful. Like you can't even put a Google button on a Linux browser, 
> for crying out loud!  Now what's that all about?  Or how about trying to 
> set up an outgoing email with  that clueless Mozilla mail package?  Or 
> what about the goofy calendar dates in Linux applications?  Or what 
> about the Linux developers who tell you to get lost if you have a 
> problem with a component? Yuck! Honestly, trying to interface with Linux 
> is like trying to interface with a bad-tempered drunk with a hangover.

Try MozillaFirebird, it has a google toolbar.  Version 0.7 was released
today.  Also, try thunderbird instead of the generic mozilla mailer.  Or
try evolution.  It looks a lot like outlook, so you should be more
comfortable with it.  Outgoing email is simple, just use localhost as
the SMTP destination.  Linux is capable of sending mail by itself, it
doesn't need a mail server to do that.  I don't get the part about goofy
calendar dates.  Can you elaborate?  As far as Linux developers telling
you to get lost, that rarely happens when you are polite and when you
send them good information.  For example, this will work:

Hi, I'm trying to use your Frammitz email package.  If I forget to
include the destination address and press SEND, the package crashes,
with a message reading "Segmentation fault".

But this won't:

Your program is the worst one I've ever seen.  I hate linux.  Yuck!  It
never works.  I'm ready to throw Linux in the river.

Note that your last message is much like the second example...

> But for other stuff not requiring human interaction, Linux is OK, I 
> guess.  At least it works for us.  But it sure is annoying!
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    Lawrence MacIntyre     865.574.8696     [email protected]
               Oak Ridge National Laboratory
High Performance Information Infrastructure Technology Group

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