Re: Linux ease of use

David Blomber wrote:

>On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 14:52, John Andersen wrote:
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>>On Saturday 25 October 2003 04:58, David Blomber wrote:
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>>>On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 12:51, John Andersen wrote:
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>>>>On Friday 24 October 2003 02:21, Daniel C. von Asmuth wrote:
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>>>>>The good news is of course, that you need to be root to install
>>>>>software, and hopefully root will think for half a second before
>>>>>installing the latest trojan.
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>>>>A popular misconception.
>>>>You can install software as a user into your own user space
>>>>~/bin.  And thats probably where most of the click-install
>>>>software should go.  At least it can't do harm to anyone
>>>>except that particular user.
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>>>Actually nothing should be in /bin it should be in /usr/local/bin /bin
>>>gets killed during upgrades and should be distro software only.
>>>secondly click and install is available in KDE (its a user space thing
>>>not a kernel one) the GUI lets you click on an RPM and it will run you
>>>through the install.  <most of us "geeks" just avoid using it but it is
>>>there. :)
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>>You didn't read very carefully.  I said ~/bin which is the users
>>OWN private bin, and it doed not get reset during upgrades...
>>Its been this way since the dawn of 'nix systems.
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>yep I must eat mud pie I missed the ~ but on the other hand I know of
>no-one who installs apps in ~/bin--many just run their simple items from
>~ and when it becomes a needed app put it in /usr/local/bin.
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I install items to ~/bin all the time... currently this is my ~/bin

(/home/redog)[bacchus.opelousas.org]
} redog {$ls ~/bin/
total 24836
-r-xr-xr-x    1 redog    users         608 Jun 27  2002 clstats
-rw-------    1 redog    users     9331422 May 29  2002 compiere_242b.bin
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog    users       32384 Apr 29  2002 dinc
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog    users         163 Feb 27  2003 display
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog    users         500 Feb 11  2003 ff.sh
-rw-r--r--    1 redog    users    14207221 Oct 22  2002 krdp
-rwxrwxrwx    1 redog    root           95 Feb 26  2003 ip
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog    users          82 Feb 27  2003 killme
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog    users          67 Mar  7  2003 ltl.sh
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog    users      149652 Jun 26  2002 mpeg_play
-r-xr-xr-x    1 redog    users      728172 Jun 26  2002 mtvp
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog    users      506312 Jun 28  2002 mutt
lrwxrwxrwx    1 redog    users          13 Nov  7  2002 pine -> 
/usr/bin/mutt
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog    users       62283 Jul 30  2002 readoe
-rwxr--r--    1 redog    users         331 Oct  7  2002 rebooter
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog    users         320 Jun 28  2002 rgrep
-rw-r--r--    1 redog    users        2216 Oct 27 12:19 split
-rw-r--r--    1 redog    users         986 Jul  5  2002 tape.splitin
-rwxr--r--    1 redog    users       34984 Aug 27  2002 tcpclient
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog    users         214 Sep 25  2002 test
lrwxrwxrwx    1 redog    users          29 Nov  1  2002 ut2003_demo -> 
/scsi/ut2003_demo/ut2003_demo
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog     users        264 Jul 22 09:03 dhcip
-rw-r--r--    1 redog     users       46 Jun 27 08:15 macchange
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog     users       1181 Oct 27 17:13 rd
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog     users      1885 Oct  7 17:45 service
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog     users       285 Oct 27 12:25 test
lrwxrwxrwx    1 redog    users            9 Jun 25 15:07 vnc -> vncviewer
-rwxr-xr-x    1 redog     users     137850 Jun 25 15:06 vncviewer
-rwxr-sr-x    1 redog     users           41 Jun 26 10:39 wip


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>But I digress sorry I missed the ~
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>Dave
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