Re: [WBEL-devel] IA64 ISO's -- any available?

Thanks for saying so clearly what I was trying to say.  I don't know
that John will agree about not wanting help on some of the things you
listed - that may come in time - but for now, you have summed up the
situation very nicely.

On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 08:07, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> Milan,
> 
> What I believe they are saying is this:
> 
> John Morris is meeting the needs of the Library, and as such he is
> providing WBEL for that purpose.  He will maintain it.  He doesn't want
> help compiling the files, sending out updates to the mailing-lists, etc.
> 
> There is no pressure on John to complete updates for anyone but the
> Library (except that he likes Whitebox and us and wants to provide the
> updates to everyone).  John will provide the updates when he can,
> usually within 1 working day as a goal ... but maybe longer for the
> major updates, or when he is out of town.
> 
> If WBEL also works for you and your situation with these restrictions,
> great ... if it doesn't, then you should start a different distribution
> with all the community involvement that you want. 
> 
> Seems to me that Jamie has said that they will put the IA-64 ISOs and
> files on the whitebox.org server so they can be distributed.
> 
> Personally, I would also like to see some of the things donovan nelson
> is trying to accomplish at whiteboxlinux.net (a forum for help, a
> bugzilla, user provided packages, etc.) ... but John is in control of
> WhiteBox Linux and he is making the decisions.
> 
> He has no magic script to compile the source files.
> 
> At first I wanted more community involvement and to help as well ...
> however, all of that at cAos has caused CentOS to be changed and
> delayed, while Whitebox is prety much usable and deployable as is
> (including several ftp and http yum/up2date sites).  I think both
> methods are viable ... Just my take.
> 
> - Johnny Hughes
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 06:33, Milan Kerslager wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 01:43:49PM -0600, Vicki Reeves wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 02:27, Milan Kerslager wrote:
> > > > You don't want to underestand what I posted.
> > > 
> > > Actually, I did understand what you posted.  As you spell out below, you
> > > have pressing need for the project to be farther along than it is at
> > > this time.  Because the need is pressing, you are passing the pressure
> > > along.  That does not make you a 'bad guy' but it's probably not healthy
> > > for you or for the project.  So, I am suggesting that you take another
> > > look at your situation and see if there is someway that you can relieve
> > > the pressure in another direction - perhaps one that does not unload a
> > > lot of negativity on the project.  Again, Milan, I did not mean to imply
> > > that you are a 'bad guy' - if you understood me to say that, I'm sorry
> > > that I was not more clear.  Thanks for your consideration.
> > 
> > Think one more time: You and Morris have no time to deal all what should
> > be done ASAP. So the logic way is allow others to help. I'm talking
> > about helping, not stealing.
> > 
> > Morris has weekend when Update1 arrived. Everyone will be very unhappy
> > when Morris will leave for holidays or so. The project could be good but
> > will be more and more unusable this way.
> > 
> > All what I want is lower pressure and not raise, do you underestand?
> > 
> > There ARE very easy steps I wrote about but you do not listen and you
> > always talking about pressure. Yes. You will be under high pressure
> > because there will be a lot more to do than today and than yesterday.
> 
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