[WBEL-users] RE: Engineering Report : False air temperature data on EGKK site
"Purcocks, Graham" <[email protected]> Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:02:50 -0500
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0083046849== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8207D.B8C67F4E" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8207D.B8C67F4E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anything to do with the new Entice part refer to Steve White. ________________________________ From: de Villiers, Michael=20 Sent: 06 November 2007 13:59 To: Purcocks, Graham; Marks, Dave Subject: RE: Engineering Report : False air temperature data on EGKK site Hello Graham, =20 Could be. Anyway as you say re-sending the data seemed to fix the problem. =20 We also had a talk about the data on the site of which he was not clear. Such as no data in some of the recent observed fields. E.G. no gust value. While talking him through the new runway and taxi temperature forecasts, he could not access the SFC temp map. It bombed out 3 times. He says Java is installed. Do not know the answer to this. Can you, or mark, please can help him? =20 He also asked about Stansted and a Vaisala link and data. This I know nothing about. I looked at the Stansted site while talking to him and found that these two products are not available (Aberdeen, Edinburgh and Glasgow are OK). According to him the Stansted products should be available. Only Heathrow should still not be available. Again, can you, or Mark, please advise him about this and the Vaisala thing? =20 =20 I do not have his e-mail address, but the telephone number is 01293 504331 (John Lint(?) at BAA). =20 =20 Regards, Michael=20 ________________________________ From: Purcocks, Graham Sent: Tue 2007-11-06 13:40 To: Weather Services International; UK Eng Reports Subject: RE: Engineering Report : False air temperature data on EGKK site It is not possible as only one set of values are in the database for any airport, however, updating has now lost that information. The data in the database now, and the previous update contain no negative air temperatures (they are unchanged). Is it possible you are referring to Surface Temperature (i.e. Runway temperatures) which did go down to 0.1 degrees but now are around 6-7 degree? Graham -----Original Message----- From: Weather Services International [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 06 November 2007 13:29 To: UK Eng Reports Subject: Engineering Report : False air temperature data on EGKK site This is an automated message from Weather Services International. ENGINEERING REPORT Engineering Report ------------------ WSI ENGINEERING REPORTS FORECASTER NAME: Michael de Villiers DATE: 2007-11-06 TIME: 1315Z CLIENT: BAA SUBJECT: False air temperature data on EGKK site CONTACT NUMBER: IT (631). Call from an unhappy John Lint(?) 01293 504331 at BAA. EGKK Gatwick on the BAA (baau0000) site had negative air temperatures on it starting this afternoon and into the night. These also appeared on the WSI (wsiu0000) site, but were correct on the NATS (natsu0000) site. The correct temperatures were on the Hubcast editor in the Metlab. Re-submitted the data. This fixed the problem. The question is, how was this possible? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8207D.B8C67F4E Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML dir=3Dltr><HEAD><TITLE>RE: Engineering Report : False air = temperature data on EGKK site</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16544" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D411240214-06112007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Anything to do with the new Entice part refer = to Steve=20 White.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft> <HR tabIndex=3D-1> <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> de Villiers, Michael = <BR><B>Sent:</B> 06=20 November 2007 13:59<BR><B>To:</B> Purcocks, Graham; Marks,=20 Dave<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Engineering Report : False air temperature = data on=20 EGKK site<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV id=3DidOWAReplyText1437 dir=3Dltr> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hello = Graham,</FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Could be. Anyway as you say = re-sending the=20 data seemed to fix the problem.</FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We also had a talk about the = data on the=20 site of which he was not clear. Such as no data in some of = the recent=20 observed fields. E.G. no gust value. While talking him through the new = runway=20 and taxi temperature forecasts, he could not access the SFC temp map. It = bombed=20 out 3 times. He says Java is installed. Do not know the answer to this.=20 Can you, or mark, please can help him?</FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He also asked about Stansted = and a Vaisala=20 link and data. This I know nothing about. I looked at the Stansted site = while=20 talking to him and found that these two products are not available = (Aberdeen,=20 Edinburgh and Glasgow are OK). According to him the Stansted=20 products should be available. Only Heathrow should still not be = available.=20 Again, can you, or Mark, please advise him about this and the = Vaisala=20 thing? </FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I do not have his e-mail = address, but the=20 telephone number is 01293 504331 (John Lint(?) at BAA).</FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV id=3DidSignature97402 dir=3Dltr> <DIV> <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Michael </SPAN><BR> <HR tabIndex=3D-1> <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Purcocks, = Graham<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tue=20 2007-11-06 13:40<BR><B>To:</B> Weather Services International; UK Eng=20 Reports<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Engineering Report : False air = temperature data=20 on EGKK site<BR></FONT><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <P><FONT size=3D2>It is not possible as only one set of values are in = the database=20 for any airport, however, updating has now lost that information. The = data in=20 the database now, and the previous update contain no negative air = temperatures=20 (they are unchanged). Is it possible you are referring to Surface = Temperature=20 (i.e. Runway temperatures) which did go down to 0.1 degrees but now are = around=20 6-7 degree?<BR><BR>Graham<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: = Weather=20 Services International [<A=20 href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]</A= >]<BR>Sent:=20 06 November 2007 13:29<BR>To: UK Eng Reports<BR>Subject: Engineering = Report :=20 False air temperature data on EGKK site<BR><BR>This is an automated = message from=20 Weather Services International.<BR><BR>ENGINEERING = REPORT<BR><BR><BR>Engineering=20 Report<BR>------------------<BR><BR>WSI ENGINEERING = REPORTS<BR>FORECASTER NAME:=20 Michael de Villiers<BR>DATE: 2007-11-06<BR>TIME: 1315Z<BR>CLIENT:=20 BAA<BR>SUBJECT: False air temperature data on EGKK site<BR>CONTACT = NUMBER: IT=20 (631).<BR><BR>Call from an unhappy John Lint(?) 01293 504331 at BAA.=20 EGKK<BR>Gatwick on the BAA (baau0000) site had negative = air<BR>temperatures on=20 it starting this afternoon and into the<BR>night. These also appeared on = the WSI=20 (wsiu0000) site, but<BR>were correct on the NATS (natsu0000) site. The=20 correct<BR>temperatures were on the Hubcast editor in the=20 Metlab.<BR><BR>Re-submitted the data. This fixed the problem.<BR><BR>The = question is, how was this=20 possible?<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></FONT></P></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8207D.B8C67F4E-- --===============0083046849== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list [email protected] http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users --===============0083046849==--