Re: n th's try to ask for help / non-X86 arch

Marc-Christian Petersen <[email protected]> Tue, 9 Mar 2004 19:02:29 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.linux.wolk.devel
Organization Working Overloaded Linux Kernel
Message-ID <200403091902.29033@WOLK>
On Monday 08 March 2004 21:09, KORN Andras wrote:

Hi Andrew,

> > non-x86 arch development, although Andras is more capable than many, to
> > my knowledge.
> I'm really flattered, but I have to disappoint you: it's just my mouth
> being bigger than it should be. :)
hehe lol :)

> Alas, I have no non-x86 knowledge worth mentioning.
same for me. Just some theoretical stuff.

> > of thing?) At the very least, I would suggest that the amount of patches
> > that are included from -mm is slimmed down somewhat.
> I agree. The amount of work required to maintain a patchset increases
> exponentially with the number of patches it contains... -mm certainly puts
> me off, for example.

well, -mm is easy (yet) to follow, it has mainly tons of bugfixes and 4g/4g 
and such. But the problem is, if you merge tons of extra features like I do 
with WOLK and want to have features like: PaX, grsec, uml-skas etc. the 
problem is to understand the code at all and merge all things up so it works 
nicely (I am far away from understanding it all, it's often a try-and-error 
session ;) ...

		That's the most timeconsuming problem I have.

Sometimes I need days to understand something in mm/ or the assembler stuff in 
the kernel when I play around with PaX.

The problem is not merging patches itself, the problem is adding huge features 
like PaX, rmap, O(1), VM fixes and such so everything works nicely, fix 
rejects, fix code overlaps or complete incompatibilities.

You just said it some days ago about uml-skas vs. PaX.

Maintaining just patches which people are sending is trivial. Just mentioning: 
wolk4.11 has 1598 patches applied where ~ 1000 are just fixes for fixes and 
fixesfixes and similar ;)

ciao, Marc



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