Hello,
I fully support this proposal as I use the PRIMARY buffer very
frequently and also think of it as a unique selling point.
Today I had a situation where replacement of the text clearly would have
been the more sensible choice (I wanted to replace one word with
another). I would have discovered the feature in this situation.
In general, my feeling is that the PRIMARY buffer degraded a lot during
the years. In many cases it does not work anymore (primary offenders:
vim (with mouse option now default), web browsers). IMHO putting some
attention to this topic would not harm.
A reference implementation sounds like a good next step.
best regards,
Markus
Am 16.03.20 um 01:44 schrieb Johannes Thrän:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:07 AM Thiago Macieira <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
> It can probably be implemented reasonably easily. It won't be a very
> discoverable feature, though, so is it worth it?
>
>
> It's is an accessibility feature, and not the least relevant one, I
> suspect. So if it ever gets implemented, big desktop systems should
> mention it in their accessibility dialogs. That way it'd actually
> becomes a bit more discoverable.
>
> I'm sure many know the problem. So yes, it's worth mentioning in the
> 'standard' - in a way that makes explicit that everything copy-paste
> could be done without a keyboard. Specifically that you could paste over
> previously selected text. On the contrary the document presently states:
>
> " [...] you should be able to select text, then paste the clipboard
> over it, but that doesn't work if the selection and
> clipboard are the same [...] "
>
> .. as a point why middle-mouse-paste is flawed, which I find biased and
> misleading.
>
>
> I checked a lot of programs for said desired behaviour and almost all of
> them only have to implement the second point from my original mail,
> which is as easy as:
> -> middle click on a text selection does the same as ctrl-v (i.e.
> replace the selection, that's it.)
>
> (I found only the 'web view'-widget of chrome would have to to do the
> other point as well.)
>
> Since the thread got a bit distracted, I summarize my arguments in a
> silly bullet point list :)
> - everything copy-paste possible by means of mouse only
> - no new paradigm
> - no existing workflow breakage
> - improving a unique selling point of linux on desktop
> - half of it is required by wayland anyways and implemented by most
> clients already..
> - ..the rest is very little and easy
> - accessibility feature almost for free
>
> (I also thought of a way on how to do it with triple and more clicks
> without relying on letting a timeout run out)
>
> Can I perhaps accelerate coming to a consensus with a reference
> implementation?
>
> cheers, Johannes
>
>
>
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