Re: [ydl-gen] quid ps3 linux after 2012 - addendum
Derick Centeno <[email protected]> Wed, 09 Mar 2011 12:25:29 -0500
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============0434761983== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8C4DB0434540B7C91DB69F73" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8C4DB0434540B7C91DB69F73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, I appreciate the correction. The question however remains in terms of the quality of PowerPC support. There is a bit of a difference between support for IBM POWER server architectures, which institutions (corporate and educational) tend to use versus consumer grade computers such as the various older Apple and other PowerPC desktop/laptop products which yet remain available on ebay or elsewhere becoming increasingly more expensive to replace when one or another of these consumer grade products break down. This situation is something I'm very familiar with by the way, and I can testify to the challenge and difficulty of an individual justifying the expense of hundreds of dollars to repair a component needed by a home-based PowerPC system one owns versus what institutions can pay or afford out of "petty cash" or other easily available funding or other sources. The economies of scale are very, very different. Between the choice of expenditures a sole individual must consider essentials such as food, or child support or other responsibilities - car/bus fare to search or find work, rent, produce r=E9sum=E9s, etc. - versus replacing an expensive component for an aging machine utilizing Linux software which no longer receives primary support (example Fedora nor Ubuntu provide primary level support for PowerPC systems). Many will switch to x86_Linux running on Intel or Cygwin or Cygwin-X (which runs within Windows 7 while recreating the Linux environment) because for the same hundreds one would spend on a PowerPC component one can acquire either a new duo- or quad-core system which incorporates IBM's advances past the PowerPC/Cell era! The independent individual when their system is broken cannot bother with the nuances of the superior architecture of the PowerPC/Cell because it is no longer a platform which they can work on instead one must face that it has become something which must be replaced if they are a student or even other professional experiencing various stages of financial stress where money is sparse. Replacement for the professional is even more important in any attempt to keep one's skill set even close to current; again in such a scenario individual's cannot choose as easily as those associated with corporations and/or academic institutions or research centers. Although I appreciate learning that Gentoo Linux (and others) are active in supporting the PowerPC the repairs I, and I'm sure others, need to make on the PowerPC one has are such that it is actually cheaper to acquire an x_86 system removing myself, and others similarly affected, from using any PowerPC Linux thereby causing in effect an ever smaller pool of PowerPC Linux users. The financial realities are such that although I'm happy to learn that at least three distributions continue to develop for the PowerPC, the finances independent individuals face, who are not connected to research or academic or corporate institutions, are forcing a greater contraction of users away from PowerPC Linux. Oddly enough support for Linux mobile systems via Android are growing, but that is a different technology platform entirely which doesn't matter to the independent individual whose system requires repairs. On 3/9/2011 5:54 AM, nello martuscielli wrote: > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Atro Tossavainen > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> There are no Linux distributions actively developing either for the >>> PowerPC or the Cell. Linux has moved on to develop for multi-core In= tel >>> and similar systems. >> >> The recently released Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 continues to be >> supported on IBM POWER server architectures, which are "ppc". >> >> This is of zero interest and no consequence to PowerPC workstation use= rs, >> but it does invalidate the point that there would be no Linux distribu= tions >> actively developing for the Power architecture. >> >=20 > indeed, there are also Gentoo, CRUX PPC and Archlinux PPC. >=20 >=20 > cheers, > nell > -- > Power Mac G4 AGP 450MHz - CRUX PPC (32bit) 2.7 --------------enig8C4DB0434540B7C91DB69F73 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk13uBIACgkQGL3MQ3EUp6UUMgCcDuu1DilNviwRaFd49EtuDQ9S fuwAoJE0xLQhimwpF937RBQfF0ziUIEF =Cmcd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8C4DB0434540B7C91DB69F73-- --===============0434761983== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ yellowdog-general mailing list - [email protected] Unsuscribe info: http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try '<keywords> site:us.fixstars.com' --===============0434761983==--