Re: sourceforge miseries

Hi,

Sam wrote:
> I am afraid that they will censor our mailing lists by prohibiting 
> discussions of software which they deem "non-free".
> E.g., if someone uses, say, Matlab of Netica interface to CLISP, they 
> might demand that each mention of Matlab is accompanied with a 
> political statement promoting the Octave alternative.

Jean Louis wrote:
>That is not true Sam. Sorry, why have such wrong perception. Yes there are these
>and those groups, but this is your group, and you can get mailing list and mention
>Matlab and Linux as you wish. It really does not matter.

That is not the letter of the Savannah site. See the link
https://savannah.gnu.org/register/requirements.php

"It is ok for the program to run on nonfree platforms or nonfree operating systems, and to work with well-known nonfree applications, in addition to working with free software, provided it gives the free software at least as good support as it gives to other alternatives. In other words, at no time, in no way, should your program put free software users at a disadvantage compared to those willing to use proprietary software."

IOW, if clisp interfaces to Matlab, it ought to interface to Octave at least as well.
Next, if someone wants to contribute an interface to e.g. vmware, clisp cannot integrate it until the time where it also provides an interface to the free(?) virtual box or the GPL2'ed qemu ! (A contrived example, the module could interface to the generic LGPL libvirt, but you get the idea.)
Of course, that contributor's code could live somewhere on another server. However clisp likes to integrate contributions, which also has the benefit, much like in-Linux-kernel-tree code, that it gets updated by the maintainers when there are structural changes, whereas a once contributor may turn to other interests.

BTW, I happen to dislike github. They always make me feel that they are more equal than others, in Orwell's animal farm sense.

Regards,
	Jörg

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