Re: static-vectors

Hello to you Jean Louis

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Jean Louis <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Herr Habs,
>
>
Just using 'Habs' for me is fine.  :-)

Thank you for the comments.

Yes, I understand.

>
> However, if you are beginner in LISP then why not
> use some other web server solution but woo?
>
>

I am aware of other servers, but I was asking the learned on here about a
particular point of some applications/libraries not working with all
*common* lisps and I now am better informed :-)


> Maybe somebody on this list can help to make
> static-vectors work on CLISP.
>


>
> > > Woo is obviously a non-comforming Common Lisp program
> > > but fails to say so on the GitHub page.
>
> Yes, I find that also stupid, and I do not find it
> "Common Lisp program" as long as it is not
> "common" and cannot be used within other
> conforming implementations of Common Lisp.
>
> > > Conforming Common Lisp programs should run on *all*
> > > Common Lisp implementations, not only on SBCL.
>
> Absolutely yes, I agree.
>
> That happens because some of authors focus only on
> one implementation.
>
> > The standardized Common Lisp is not enough for many purposes, first of
> all
> > it lacks a FFI and networking; therefore all programs that need that rely
> > on non-standard extensions.
>
> That may be, I am not a specialist, but I know
> that CLISP does have option for FFI, however maybe
> the author of static-vectors did not look enough
> into CLISP to make it work.
>
> > Clisp is almost unmaintained and I - as well as most Lisp developers I
> know
> > - simply don't use it and don't port our libraries to Clisp. I'm happy to
> > accept patches to static-vectors that adds Clisp support but I'm not
> > interested in doing any work on that.
>
> Well I cannot agree on that, and it means
> nothing. Obviously CLISP is under development and
> what needs to be maintained if it is already well
> conforming Common Lisp implementation?
>
> So the statement like that is not specific. It
> just means that the author did not look enough
> into his own authorship, and he even said so.
>
> > As new to Lisp/CLISP, as I said alluded to previously, this sort of
> > perception seems to crop up more than perhaps it should for *common lisp*
> > CLISP.  I like CLISP too (it shipped by default with my preference of
> Linux
> > distro :-)  .  It is a real shame if people are developing things but
> > perceive common lisp as lacking and therefore their offerings are for
> some
> > extended common lisp that results in more exclusivity than the common.
>  I
> > ramble, but there you go.
>
> Yes those things happen.
>
> However, what exactly do you try to accomplish?
>

Again, I don't think I am seeking help for some solution (though that would
be nice re: static-vectors; I will have a look myself for what it is worth
regarding my ability); as explained above, it was more of finding
out/receiving comments on what many 'lispers' probably have already come
across.


> I am using CLISP as CGI program, and it is already
> very good and fast that way, it is compiled and
> does what I want.
>
> And I am using it under Nginx webserver.
>
> --
> Jean Louis
>

All the above said and done,  I am quietly enjoying CLISP lisp and I wish
so much I had been exposed to it much earlier :-)


Regards to all.
Habs
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