Re: Trac on common-lisp.net

Chun Tian <[email protected]> Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:14:06 +0800
Newsgroups	gmane.lisp.common-lisp-net.devel
Message-ID	<[email protected]>
Hi Erik,

usocket can be ignore here, as it doesn't have any useful data on Trac.  Thanks for your maintenance work.

P. S. I believe, by using "pyenv", any needed version of Python can be easily installed locally and be used for specific purposes without considering Debian packaging policy.

--Chun

> On Oct 10, 2020, at 03:30, Erik Huelsmann <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The VM running common-lisp.net <http://common-lisp.net/> needs an O/S upgrade: the host is running Debian Stretch which has gone EOL in July (but is receiving LTS updates for specific components). Due to package compatibility issues, the upgrade needs to go directly to Debian Bullseye (skipping Debian Buster).
> 
> We have a dependency problem with this upgrade: Debian Buster - which we'll skip - was the last to support Python 2.7. We depend on Python 2.7 for the following services: Trac, Mailman2.1, ViewVC and greylistd. All other services either don't depend on Python, or have Python3 compatible versions in Debian Bullseye. For Mailman2.1 we have a "simple" solution: migration to Mailman3. Mailman3 is a totally new application coming from the developers of Mailman2.1. For greylistd we will be able to either find an alternative or we can stop greylisting entirely. For ViewVC, we hope to see a release soonish which supports Python3 (and its inclusion in Debian); in its repository, there's support for Python3 already, as is the required Python3 support for the Subversion bindings.
> 
> This leaves us with just Trac which has been removed from Debian because of its Python 2.7 dependency. Looking at its homepage, there doesn't seem to be a Python3 compatible release yet. I really want to be running OS packages, because those include (security) releases when issues are found -- which saves the common-lisp.net <http://common-lisp.net/> manual monitoring of our dependencies.
> 
> These projects have Trac projects:
> 
>     armedbear
>     bknr
>     cl-darcs
>     cl-irc
>     cl-markdown
>     cl-openid
>     cl-test-grid
>     cl-trane
>     cl-weblocks
>     clfswm
>     clo
>     cmucl
>     elephant
>     f2cl
>     fset
>     gsharp
>     isidorus
>     mcclim
>     movitz
>     nio
>     oct
>     ucw
>     usocket
> 
> So what's our next step? Do we go looking for a Trac alternative? Does anybody have contacts with the Trac team and can consult with them about their plans?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
> Bye,
> 
> Erik.
> 
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