Re: Need Volunteers for Website Working Committee

>> With all services docker you'll have to individually check them for
>> security updates and so on.
> 
> Most likely not, because you'll only be using popular software that 
> have well-maintained official images.

Still someone needs to notice and restart the services
to get the new images downloaded, right?


>>>   And For coordination of several
>>> containers running our several services, do you think we could we
>>> could use something simple such as docker-compose or would we better
>>> resort to a "real" orchestration setup such as kubernetes?
>> 
>> Ouch.
>> No, please let's avoid the complexity.
> 
> For your case, K8s is a reasonably easy way to have HA without many 
> issues.
> You can go very cheap with 3 Hetzner hosts x 50 EUR per month, and use 
> Ubuntu with MicroK8s on the hosts.

If Hetzner does all the K8s infrastructure and we pay just for the
worker nodes, maybe it'll be easy enough.

Doing Kubernetes hosting is _way_ out of scope for c-l.net, IMO.


>>> In addition to HA (High Availability)
>> 
>> HA adds complexity - and so adds to support load.
>> I'm not sure we need it.
> 
> I'm not sure you can afford not to have som for of HA. common-lisp.net 
> already has a reputation of poor reliability
> and continuing on the same path doesn't seem a very good idea.
> All the new lispers, and many of the old ones, have moved to other 
> services (mostly Github) for good reasons.

I don't think this is because of reliability of the hosting service -
more of convenience resp. familiarity when comparing Gitlab to GitHub.


>>>  2. Maybe for a dedicated gitlab host as well, because that program
>>> is so freaking heavy.
> 
> I suggest switching to a lighter-weight alternative like Gitea or, even 
> better, bailing out of source hosting altogether.
> It take a lot of work to provide a capable service, which volunteers 
> can hardly provide.

If we decide not to host any Git UI (and no ticket tracker, no pipeline, 
etc.),
I'll still vote to have git repositories - as a reference source/backup.

Via https://gitolite.com/gitolite/index.html should be easy enough.