Re: common-lisp.net http stopped running

On Thu, Nov 16, 2023, 07:29 Mark Evenson <[email protected]> wrote:

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> > On Nov 15, 2023, at 13:55, Erik Huelsmann <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >
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> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023, 13:39 Mark Evenson <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 15, 2023, at 12:29, Erik Huelsmann <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, this is nothing new and has happened on several
> occasions over the past weeks. I have no idea what could be causing this
> issue, but could it be related to reverse proxying paste.lisp.org which
> is no longer serving pages?
> >
> > I missed the retirement of paste.lisp.org <http://paste.lisp.org/>:  it
> was running read-only for quite a while.  Was a decision made to shut it
> down permanently?
> >
> > No, that decision made itself: the ever since the bots have been kicked
> off Libera, the server has been failing to serve lisppaste as well. The
> only thing I did after months of failure (which I did note only in arrears;
> I wasn't actively looking at these failures happening), I took the sbcl out
> of its misery and just shut it down.
>
> I heard about the “libera.chat bans bots” ambiently over the last couple
> months.
>
> I just had the following conversation in #libera-bots
>
> <easye> Mornin' all.  I am trying to get some up-to-date information about
> the
>         status of bots being allowed on libera chat networks.  Over the
> past
>         couple months, I've heard ambiently that "bots are now banned",
> but
>         according to <https://libera.chat/guides/faq#are-bots-allowed>
> bots
>         *are* allowed.
> [06:14]
> <easye> Has the policy outlined in the libera faq ("bots allowed with
>
>         permission from channel operator") been changed?
> [06:19]
> <moonmoon> hasn't
>  [06:21]
> <moonmoon> whether a bot is allowed in a channel is up to the ops of that
>
>            channel
>
> <easye> moonmoon: thank you for the clarification.
> [06:22]
> <moonmoon> so if you heard that bots are banned from a particular channel,
> it
>            means that. not a network-wide thing
>
>
>
> So, it must be that the operator of #commonlisp that banned the bot?  Who
> is that at this point?
>
> Anybody have insight into whatever drama is


I can shed a bit of light on that: the bots were alledgedly continuously
reconnecting to the IRC network. When I found them, every connection
attempt was answered by the IRC network with a message like "you're banned.
Fix your setup."

So I expect that this isn't an issue with the libera policy on bots in
general neither with the ops of the channels the bots want to join.

Thanks for looking into this!

Regards,

Erik