Re: +-Inf and NaN

Richard Fateman <[email protected]> Fri, 23 Feb 2024 17:46:28 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.comp.mathematics.maxima.general,gmane.lisp.gcl.devel
Message-ID <CADB8Zm4g3yRznzrQDAdu26QM2i4zvDkq5B3EB=W6s7c=r0S-hQ@mail.gmail.com>
Since Maxima has symbols that are not float NaNs for  inf, minf, infinity,
undefined, indefinite...
it would seem superficially plausible to  unite these notations.
Not easy.
For solving inf-inf --> not zero, i've proposed and partially implemented
the idea
that inf, as well as und,  should be indexed each time it is generated. Thus
x: 1/0  returns und[1].
y: 1/0  returns und[2]

x-x returns 0.
x-y  is und[1]-und[2]  --> und[3].

how to implement?  lots of patches.
Here's another: allow rational numbers 1/0  and 0/0  and maybe -1/0


On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 11:05 AM Stavros Macrakis <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 12:20 PM Henry Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ...There was a reason why Maclisp used a separate function name for float
>>
>> arithmetic functions, and it wasn't just to speed up float arithmetic.
>>
>
> Actually, that was precisely why. (plus a b) was be translated to (+$ a b)
> if a and b were of type float.
>
> The real reason is that *floats don't adhere to standard algebraic axioms*.
>>
>
> Well, since *plus* invokes floating point operations, it has the same
> issues.
>
>
>> In particular, standard "=" needs to be an *equivalence relation*, which
>>
>> means transitivity, among other things, so floating point needs its own
>>
>> brain-damaged 'equality' predicate -- perhaps IEEE-=
>>
>
> Extending data types with an NA value is pretty standard and useful, and
> not just for floats. One of these days (ha ha), we'll even get Maxima to
> realize that INF-INF does not equal 0, and that not all INFs are equal.
>
>

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