Re: G-Golf usage questions, g-object-unref and others

On 28.05.25 15:39, [email protected] wrote:
> Zelphir Kaltstahl<[email protected]> writes:
>
>> Ah OK! I thought it might be perceived as annoying, if I send 3
>> separate ones, but it makes sense for the purpose of focused
>> discussion. I'll branch out from here using separate replies.
> Actually, that can be annoying too if you send it to me.
>
> Maybe you can send your questions, not to Guile User
> <[email protected]>, but to the one person who seems to know what your
> questions are about and can answer.
>
> I am a Guile user who has no idea what is G-Golf is, and doesn't want to
> know.  I am working on category theoretic semantics of macro expansion.
> Shall I post my long questions about that to Guile User?
>
>    Best Regards,
>    -- Keith

Hello Keith,

your stance seems quite unreasonable and not in the spirit of knowledge sharing.

Many different topics in relation with Guile are discussed on this mailing list. 
G-Golf is a library specifically for Guile. Most likely not everyone here is 
interested in every topic discussed here, and that is fine. I receive messages 
from the mailing list, that contain things I don't know much about all the time. 
Not every message can be a post about a new release of GNU Guile.

I have no way of knowing, how many people are interested in learning more about 
G-Golf, or how many people on the mailing list have used G-Golf and could 
possibly have the answers I am seeking. If you had followed the whole recent 
G-Golf related messages, you would also have noticed, that not merely 1 person 
was involved in answering questions, but 2. There is no way of knowing, who else 
could also be thinking about starting a project with G-Golf and might silently 
read along, using information we are sharing here in our collaboration.

If you are using some Guile specific things or using Guile itself for your 
"category theoretic semantics of macro expansion", and you think anyone on the 
Guile users mailing list could be knowledgeable about something you need to know 
or want to discuss, then I don't see, why you should not post about that topic 
here. You can post it, and no one is forced to read all of it, if people feel, 
that it is too long. If you are annoyed by multiple e-mails arriving, then you 
have the option to choose to receive a mailing list digest less frequently. If 
the length of a question is a problem, you are not forced to read all of it either.

Unless there is a more suitable mailing list specifically for G-Golf, which I am 
unaware of, I think this mailing list is the best place for asking my questions. 
Whoever searches online for how to use G-Golf will be able to find messages from 
this mailing list and will be happy, that someone else already asked the 
question publicly and someone else publicly answered it.

Frankly, I don't see why you are trying to discourage dialog about Guile 
specific topics on a Guile User mailing list. I don't think a mailing list is 
merely intended as a hub for finding a subset of people to communicate with and 
then communicating in private, invisible for anyone else.

Perhaps the maintainers and other people on the mailing list see it differently. 
In that case I would like to know about that general sentiment. In that case I 
would have to change the structure of my communication into first merely asking 
who is knowledgeable and then communicating only in that subset of people, not 
sharing anything with the rest of the community. My impression over the last 5y 
or so is however, that the mailing list is very much not run that way. I have 
not seen people regularly taking their discussions off the mailing list. In 
fact, this mailing list is my main intake of information related to Guile, and 
yet I don't read everything.

Best regards, Zelphir

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