RE: Using Emacs as a Lisp IDE

"Clementson, Bill" <[email protected]> Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:57:10 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.lisp.ilisp.general,gmane.lisp.ilisp.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
From: Nicolas Neuss on Monday, July 14, 2003 1:43 AM
> "Clementson, Bill" <[email protected]> writes:
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> > I have sent the following message to c.l.l. asking for feedback. I=20
> > would also appreciate any ilisp-specific tips & techniques=20
> that people=20
> > might like to share.
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> > Thanks,
> > Bill
> > Bill Clementson
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> Nice list.  I won't be at that conference, but I'll gladly=20
> look at the cookbook entry.

Thanks, hope it will prove useful to people.

> I see no topic which I miss, so I will ask something completely out of
> line: when I tried Ilisp the last time (before I switched=20
> back to my old
> configuration) I noticed that several key combinations which=20
> I use quite often (compile function, etc) now consist of=20
> three keystrokes.  Before I try to get used to that I would=20
> like to know how many people really use those combinations=20
> instead of defining their own combinations (I guess also=20
> using FSF non-compliant keybindings might be sufficient). =20
> And how happy they are with this...

In May/June, I went through all of the FSF keybindings with the
intention of:

1. Removing keybindings that conflicted with comint mode (or other
standard) keybindings
2. Making certain that the FSF keybindings all conformed to the FSF
keybinding guidelines
3. Adding bindings for commands that weren't bound in the FSF
keybindings=20

I went through several iterations, getting feedback from people on the
ilisp lists and c.l.l. before we finally settled on the new FSF
keybindings (that are now in CVS). I initially resisted going to 3
keystroke bindings because I didn't want to have 3 keystrokes. However,
after trialing them, I found that they are actually easier to use (in
many cases) than some of the alternatives since they are all bound to
ctrl key sequences (and don't require a change to an alternative
modifier key). Also, the mnemonic groupings make it easier (at least for
me) to remember many more of the ilisp keybindings.

Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing how many users use the standard
bindings as opposed to defining their own, but The feedback I've gotten
to date has been mostly positive. Let me know how you like the new
bindings once you've tried them out.

Cheers,
Bill


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