Re: LW 8.1 keyboard issue

"Tim Bradshaw (as tfb at cley dot com)" <[email protected]>
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My point wasn't really about watches or phones: it was that in 1980 millions of people worked in jobs a significant part of which was typing numbers into machines.  Most people who worked in shops spent a significant amount of time typing numbers at machines.  People in head offices typed in sales figures that had been faxed to them from branches.  In hospitals nurses typed in patient data.

That world is the world the PC keyboard was designed for.  That world, which was already fading in 1980, is now gone: the bar code on the product is scanned, that data is fed into a system that both generates your bill and updates the sales & stock databases.  In the hospital the monitoring equipment sends telemetry to a database somewhere.  The engines in the airliner log data to their manufacturer.

To bring this slightly back on topic: we know what keyboards designed for Lisp programming might look like because Lisp programmers have designed keyboards.  The Knight & space cadet keyboards may not be what people would want today, but neither has numeric pads.

Sorry for this diversion.

--tim

> On 9 Mar 2025, at 12:37, Greg Menke (as gregm32768 at comcast dot net) <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Perhaps there is some change.   Back in the 80's I never had a watch or phone with any data I cared about, now not only do I not have a watch but I care even less about getting data from phones.   The meters and scopes related devices are a lot nicer though.
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>> On 3/9/2025 4:15 AM, Tim Bradshaw wrote:
>> Well, in 1980 we had one or two very expensive things with GPIB which talked to some very also very expensive HP machine with GPIB.  Everything else we typed in.  Today my watch, which I have to charge once every few weeks, sends a stream of data to my phone, which sends it to some machine from where I occasionally download and plot it.
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>> Other than that, no, nothing's changed.
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>>>> On 9 Mar 2025, at 03:30, Greg Menke (as gregm32768 at comcast dot net) <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Requirements to enter a lot of numbers haven't changed since the 80's.
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