Re: Just take me out back and shoot me...

"Yuri Davidovsky (as work at disclosure dot ie)" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.lisp.lispworks.general
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> On 7 Aug 2025, at 22:17, Eben Bruyns (as eben at sdk dot co dot nz) <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I think there's certainly value in these tools, but I don't think the value is as much as the industry wants you to believe.

I find LLMs are very valuable for me as a learning tool (smart search engine, basically). I also use it occasionally for boilerplate generation (give me a class describing a wav file structure) and in these two aspects these tools are well worth the money for my use case. However as dbm noted, you have to know what you are asking, otherwise you won’t be able to filter bullshit out. 

These systems are not good coders (and probably won’t be in the near future) because programming is not about being able to churn lines of code out but rather being able to model a specific problem in a mental abstract space (your head, basically), and then being able to express this model in computer code. Programming is not about writing code, but about modeling problems. 

Equating programming with putting out lines of text is the same as equating bicycle riding with turning pedals — this is the easiest and most boring part of the entire process, but not the process itself. 

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