Re: Naive DEFSYSTEM replacement

"Tim Bradshaw (as tfb at tfeb dot org)" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.lisp.lispworks.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 1 Dec 2025, at 04:38, Faré (as fahree at gmail dot com) <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 2. ASDF is actually not complicated at all. COMPARED TO WHAT???

Right.  Have you seen C build systems recently?  I have notes on how to build various things I need which quite literally start 'first, build a Linux VM'.  And then, once you've done that, the thing goes away and thrashes a machine that can manage several billion operations a second for half an hour, before finally consenting to build the wrong configuration of a 25-line program.  In thousands of years, people are going to find a concrete-covered pit in the ground.  Inscribed on it will be

    This place is not a place of honor,
    no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here,
    nothing valued is here.
    What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
    This message is a warning about danger.

Underneath the 30 feet of concrete and lead will be, amongst other things, GNU autotools.

I disagree with many, many things about ASDF. I dislike it so much I use for my own purposes a much simpler set of tools (which don't require separate system definitions).

But it's not a C build system.  You will not be permanently damaged by being near it.

--tim


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