Re: Is this correct?
"Rainer Joswig (as joswig at lisp dot de)" <[email protected]>
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Even on macOS it depends on the actual file system. Plus: even a case insensitive version of an APFS file system will preserve the case of the filename. macOS supports several file systems. HFS+ was some years ago the default. The default file system used for macOS now is APFS. Both HFS+ and APFS come in case preserving + case insensitive ***AND*** in case sensitive versions. It's perfectly legal to create an APFS filesystem as case sensitive. macOS also supports FAT32 and exFAT, for examples with SD-Cards. Several Macs even have SD-Card readers built in. Those file systems are case preserving and case insensitive. macOS also supports various other file systems to various degree, like formats for optical disks or NTFS (only reading). > Am 20.02.2026 um 17:43 schrieb Michał phoe Herda (as phoe at disroot dot org) <[email protected]>: > > Is your filesystem case-sensitive? It seems you're using macOS, at which point the case in pathnames won't matter and all pathname variants you listed are correct. > > W dniu 2026-02-20 17:35, Marco Antoniotti napisał(a): > >> Hi >> >> That does not matter. It is the case of the results that is off. >> >> On LW this is what you have: >> >> CL-USER 10 > (describe *default-pathname-defaults*) >> >> #P"" is a PATHNAME >> HOST NIL >> DEVICE NIL >> DIRECTORY NIL >> NAME NIL >> TYPE NIL >> VERSION :NEWEST >> >> and >> >> CL-USER 12 > (describe (lw:current-pathname)) >> >> #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/" is a PATHNAME >> HOST NIL >> DEVICE NIL >> DIRECTORY (:ABSOLUTE "Users" "marcoxa" "Projects" "Lang" "CL" "HELambdaP") >> NAME NIL >> TYPE NIL >> VERSION NIL >> >> On SBCL you have. >> >> CL-USER> (describe *default-pathname-defaults*) >> #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/" >> [pathname] >> >> HOST = #<SB-IMPL::UNIX-HOST {1200039983}> >> DIRECTORY = (:ABSOLUTE "Users" "marcoxa" "Projects" "Lang" "CL" "HELambdaP") >> >> But even binding *d-p-d* on LWM does not change the effect. >> >> CL-USER 11 > (let ((*default-pathname-defaults* (current-pathname))) >> (load "tmp/lpn.lisp") >> (load "tmp/Lpn.lisp") >> (load "tmp/LPN.lisp")) >> ; Loading text file /Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/lpn.lisp >> LPN: Test: *load-pathname* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/lpn.lisp" >> LPN: Test: *load-truename* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/lpn.lisp" >> ; Loading text file /Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/Lpn.lisp >> LPN: Test: *load-pathname* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/Lpn.lisp" >> LPN: Test: *load-truename* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/Lpn.lisp" >> ; Loading text file /Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/LPN.lisp >> LPN: Test: *load-pathname* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/LPN.lisp" >> LPN: Test: *load-truename* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/LPN.lisp" >> #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/LPN.lisp" >> >> Shall I move to TOPS-20? 🥹🙄 >> >> Cheers >> >> Marco >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 5:25 PM Michał "phoe" Herda <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> What is *DEFAULT-PATHNAME-DEFAULTS* on LW and SBCL? https://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/v_defaul.htm >> >> Asking because that is going to affect the value of LOAD-PATHNAME, as per https://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/v_ld_pns.htm >> >> Both are correct, I just suspect that the implementation-defined default is different. >> >> W dniu 2026-02-20 17:12, Marco Antoniotti (as marco dot antoniotti at unimib dot it) napisał(a): >> >> Hi >> >> I am finding some issues with *load-pathname* and *load-truename*. >> >> Here is what I see in LWM (8.x). I did a change-directory beforehand). >> >> CL-USER 5 > (load "tmp/lpn.lisp") >> ; Loading text file /Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/lpn.lisp >> LPN: Test: *load-pathname* #P"tmp/lpn.lisp" >> LPN: Test: *load-truename* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/lpn.lisp" >> #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/lpn.lisp" >> >> CL-USER 6 > (load "tmp/Lpn.lisp") >> ; Loading text file /Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/Lpn.lisp >> LPN: Test: *load-pathname* #P"tmp/Lpn.lisp" >> LPN: Test: *load-truename* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/Lpn.lisp" >> #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/Lpn.lisp" >> >> CL-USER 7 > (load "tmp/LPN.lisp") >> ; Loading text file /Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/LPN.lisp >> LPN: Test: *load-pathname* #P"tmp/LPN.lisp" >> LPN: Test: *load-truename* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/LPN.lisp" >> #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/LPN.lisp" >> >> However, SCBL seems to be "more correct". >> >> CL-USER> (load "tmp/lpn.lisp") >> LPN: Test: *load-pathname* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/lpn.lisp" >> LPN: Test: *load-truename* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/lpn.lisp" >> T >> CL-USER> (load "tmp/Lpn.lisp") >> LPN: Test: *load-pathname* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/Lpn.lisp" >> LPN: Test: *load-truename* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/lpn.lisp" >> T >> CL-USER> (load "tmp/LPN.lisp") >> LPN: Test: *load-pathname* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/LPN.lisp" >> LPN: Test: *load-truename* #P"/Users/marcoxa/Projects/Lang/CL/HELambdaP/tmp/lpn.lisp" >> T >> >> The actual file is tmp/lpn.lisp and it is listed below. >> >> (format t "LPN: Test: *load-pathname* ~S~%" *load-pathname*) >> (format t "LPN: Test: *load-truename* ~S~%" *load-truename*) >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Marco >> >> -- >> Marco Antoniotti, Professor, Director tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01 >> DISCo, University of Milan-Bicocca U14 2043 http://dcb.disco.unimib.it <http://dcb.disco.unimib.it/> >> Viale Sarca 336 >> I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALY >> >> REGAINS: https://regains.disco.unimib.it/ >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Marco Antoniotti, Professor, Director tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01 >> DISCo, University of Milan-Bicocca U14 2043 http://dcb.disco.unimib.it <http://dcb.disco.unimib.it/> >> Viale Sarca 336 >> I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALY >> >> REGAINS: https://regains.disco.unimib.it/ >