Re: Structures as literals

"David McClain (as dbm at refined-audiometrics dot com)" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.lisp.lispworks.general
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So, have you guys seen this? And it appears that, at a binary level, they have managed to overcome your intractability. 

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> On Mar 3, 2026, at 05:04, Bradford Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I suspect Dr. Bradshaw was referring to Rice’s Theorem, and meant undecidable? That doesn’t mean you can’t have something that works on a finite syntactic set.
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2026, at 7:01 PM, David McClain (as dbm at refined-audiometrics dot com) <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> But I don’t understand your statement that it is a generally intractable problem. The system I have been using since 2009 has worked wonderfully well for me, and handles self-referential and circular references transparently. The only thing it can’t serialize is compiled code and functional closures.
>> 
>> - DM
>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2026, at 15:34, Tim Bradshaw (as tfb at cley dot com) <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2 Mar 2026, at 18:50, David McClain (as dbm at refined-audiometrics dot com) <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Instead of MAKE-LOAD-FORM, I use a binary interchange format for my serialization across the network and to file storage. So long as another Lisp reads them back, they are portable.
>>> 
>>> I was asking about the specific case of specific literal objects of objects in compiled files, not another attempt to solve a famously intractable-in-general problem.
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