Re: type specifier '(simple-vector n) in defmethod
Nicolas Martyanoff <[email protected]> Fri, 05 Jan 2024 20:13:47 +0100
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Ron Garret <[email protected]> writes: >> On Jan 5, 2024, at 5:41 AM, Tim McNerney <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It's not too late to fix this flaw. What's the harm? > > Bikeshedding. If we don't get the M1 port done, CCL is dead. We need to focus. While I have no doubt that not having a M1 port is a deal breaker for developers working on MacOS, I would argue that the lack of regular releases and the multitude of open issues and pull requests (i.e. the lack of maintenance) is what is killing CCL. Running on Apple Silicon is not going to fix the multitude of issues you might encounter on any platform. As an example, a couple months ago I try starting to write a patch for CCL, spent way too much time trying to decipher code with no comment or type declaration, then realized that CCL would randomly segfault when rebuilding itself (Linux/x86_64). Google showed me at least one person having encountered the exact same problem before, and zero answers. I went back to SBCL and will probably drop CCL support from my projects because what is the point? I fully understand that no one at Clozure has the time or money to invest on CCL and I'm not blaming anyone; it is already admirable of them to have built CCL and released it under a free license. But This is just what happens in the Open Source world when no one forks an unmaintained project, especially for a language which while not dead is starting to smell really funny. -- Nicolas Martyanoff https://n16f.net [email protected]