RE: hold off until the copyright can be clarified

MJ Ray <[email protected]> Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:38:56 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.lisp.scheme.plt.schematics
Organization Very poor
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 2004-09-03 22:42:59 +0100 Anton van Straaten 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> [...] In order to do this, we
> have to comply with the requirements in clause 6, which are 
> straightforward
> in our case.

So, the printed cookbook has to come with machine-readable source of 
all contributions?

I'm not convinced that you can appeal to clause 6. You are not 
including "portions of the Library" but rather the entire Library. In 
the LGPL's target situation, it seems rare for so much of the Library 
to be included in the work. This seems like claiming one could write 
new interface files and produce a non-free version of a LGPL library.

> [...] Regarding source and object form, the FSF didn't see fit to 
> include
> definitions of those in the LGPL.

Yes, they did one of those. See clause 0 for "Source code". Have you 
read the licence?

> [...] In the Cookbook's case, the formatted
> output, whether on the web or the pages of a book, is obviously the 
> object
> form.

Is that object code, or merely a translation of the formatting? The 
content doesn't seem to get transformed much.

> [...] We're not talking about wanting to deal with a
> "free-software-copyright-fearing publisher", we're talking about a 
> publisher
> who might want reasonable legal protection on their investment. [...]

Are you claiming that free software does not have reasonable legal 
protection?

Also, there's no advance to pay, authors and editors working for 
free... is the publisher really investing much in this?

> If such a combination were not permitted, the LGPL wouldn't work for 
> its
> primary purpose, to allow libraries to be combined into other works 
> that
> aren't under free licenses.

Do you think LGPL allows you to take source code from many LGPL works, 
merely combine it and claim the resulting work is not LGPL'd?

Maybe I'm not seeing the cookbook situation the same as you do. I 
think you can claim it permits linking an Anton-License'd TOC, 
foreword and index as a work using the libraries, but then free 
software authors can shred those unread and write new ones...

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