Re: [ANN] New package: live-free-or-die

Alex Knauth <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lang.racket.user,gmane.lisp.scheme.plt
Message-ID <[email protected]>
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 9:39 PM, Jay McCarthy <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> If I knew how, I'd do unsafe-in, but I just know how to fake a typed context. The whole point is to use the optimizer so libraries like math are usable. 

Libraries like math/array would still be usable without the optimizer. 

What you really want is a version of require (or a require transformer) that would allow untyped code to *selectively* unsafely require typed code. I would want to import as few things unsafely as possible.

It's impossible to choose what to be unsafe about if it's an all-or-nothing imperative flag like that.

> On Friday, September 23, 2016, Leif Andersen <leif-hCbPq2Sbls7o/[email protected] <mailto:leif-hCbPq2Sbls7o/[email protected]>> wrote:
> Umm...if you're going to do this, why is it imperative, and not a require transformer?
> 
> Also, I kind of agree with Matthias here...sigh. :'( Like, as far as I can tell, this is even worse then typed/racket/unsafe, as the optimizer is still run. O_o

Also, with typed/racket/unsafe the optimizer *is* still run, so that's not any better *unless* you selectively choose what you want to be unsafe.

This is worse, but not because of the optimizer; because of the all-or-nothing part.

Alex Knauth

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