Re: [racket-dev] How to contribute to Dr. Racket IDE?

Hi Michael,

Welcome!

Racketeers use a lot of different editors and IDE's - I did an ad-hoc
survey a while back and I was surprised by the variety - and how many
people use a combination of editors and IDE's.

There are a lot of options - use what works for you.

DrRacket supports Emacs keybindings
<https://docs.racket-lang.org/drracket/Keyboard_Shortcuts.html#%28idx._%28gentag._165._%28lib._scribblings%2Fdrracket%2Fdrracket..scrbl%29%29%29>
:

If you are most familiar with Emacs-style key bindings (especially on
> windows or some linux installations where the control key is, by default,
> for the menu shortcuts), you should uncheck the Enable keybindings in
> menus preference.

-
https://docs.racket-lang.org/drracket/Keyboard_Shortcuts.html#%28idx._%28gentag._165._%28lib._scribblings%2Fdrracket%2Fdrracket..scrbl%29%29%29

The drracket-vim-tool is a DrRacket plugin that simulates vim keybindings
https://pkgs.racket-lang.org/package/drracket-vim-tool

Racket Mode (very popular!) provides GNU Emacs major modes for Racket: Edit
and REPL. https://www.racket-mode.com

You can also use VIM https://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/Vim.html
and other editors: https://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/other-editors.html

There is a racket-langserver!
https://github.com/jeapostrophe/racket-langserver  - the author of Magic
Racket VS Code plugin recently released an update announcing this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Racket/comments/gczcn8/vs_code_racket_extension_gains_lsp_support/

Kind regards,

Stephen


On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 4:48 PM Michael Robin <me-/[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Although I’ve had some experience with using (and implementing various
> “naïve”) versions of Lisp, I’m also a Racket newbie.
>
> Although there are good reasons to have a stand-alone IDE like DrRacket,
> esp. as a standard batteries-included environment for teaching, having an
> IDE do what everyone wants is of course a challenge, so in non-educational
> environments such stand-alone IDEs are somewhat of an anachronism. For
> instance, personally I find it almost impossible to work in a modeless
> editor, so without Vi or Emacs bindings (I prefer the former, despite the
> latter’s lineage), but I don’t expect DrRacket to provide these bindings,
> but just expect to do what it does well.
>
>
>
> So I think the best way is probably to use something like VsCode (which
> you mention) with one or more plug-ins to edit code, do repl work, and to
> debug if it is supported.  I don’t think any of the plug-ins shown below
> support debugging (no Racket LSP protocol?) but otherwise may do what you
> want. I think working on these plug-in’s probably makes for sense then
> burdening DrRacket with more functionality. So your workflow could be to do
> major editing and some experimenting in VsCode, and have DrRacket
> auto-reload externally changed files, and use DrRacket for serious
> debugging; VsCode can also reload files changed in DrRacket – though I’d
> make sure files are checked into git in case something gets saved that you
> want to back out of.   I do something similar with SWI Prolog, which has a
> similar stand-alone IDE, where I edit from VsCode and debug in the SWI
> IDE.
>
>
>
> Some relevant VsCode extensions shown below -- you’ll have to experiment
> to see which play along well with others if you need more than one. Having
> a “blessed” extension that could be improved on (is there one??) and an LSP
> protocol would be nice.
>
>
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>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> *From:* racket-dev-/[email protected] <racket-dev-/[email protected]> *On
> Behalf Of *Matthias Felleisen
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2020 6:43 AM
> *To:* Robby Findler <robby-Tm56wbeMse4mSb9I+tWM/[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Conor Hoekstra <[email protected]>; Racket Developers <
> racket-dev-/[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [racket-dev] How to contribute to Dr. Racket IDE?
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> Conor,
>
>
>
> see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/racket-users/lXrgeBwJAJ4 for
> a recent discussion on how to work on drracket.
>
>
>
> — Matthias
>
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>
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>
> On May 7, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Robby Findler <robby-Tm56wbeMse4mSb9I+tWM/[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Conor: thanks for your interest in DrRacket. To build it, run "make" in
> the top-level of a checkout of the main racket repository. As for the rest,
> I think that there are things related to some of what you want, but
> probably not exactly what you have asked for.
>
>
>
> Robby
>
>
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>
> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:12 PM Conor Hoekstra <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I am a new racketeer. I have written a couple toy algorithms
> <https://twitter.com/code_report/status/1244723909355884544?s=20> in
> Racket in the past couple months and started to write my first library in
> Racket today. This was caused bu starting to read SICP. I then went and
> watched 5 RacketCon talks by Matthew Butterick, Matthew Flatt, Matthias
> Felleisen and Alexis King. To say the least, as a programming language
> enthusiast, I am very excited about Racket as a PL for creating PLs.
>
>
>
> However, I have been rather disappointed with Dr. Racket. For an IDE
> designed for students and aimed at teaching - there seem to be a couple
> major low hanging fruits that have been missed.
>
>
>
> *MISSING FEATURES*
>
> 1. No automatic formatter (or pretty-printer) [ and yes I understand the
> auto-indent feature is there, but there should be something like gofmt for
> Go or clang-format for C++ ]
>
> 2. No option to syntax color different symbols
>
>    - This one is really surprising. If you look at VS Code screenshot
>    below, you can see that the function name and the parameters are different
>    colors. A bit odd that *take *and *drop* aren't blue but still, this
>    is a major missing feature IMO.
>
> <vscode_racket.png>
>
> 3. No parentheses color matching
>
>    - Once again, very surprising this isn't an option. I realize there is
>    a "scope highlighter" feature, but that requires skipping around with your
>    cursor.
>
> Anyways, I am not one to complain without proposing solutions or trying to
> fix things. Due to how excited I am about Racket, I figured I would just go
> build the IDE and open a couple PRs to add these features. I hopped over
> to: https://github.com/racket/drracket and that led to a couple of other
> missing things.
>
>
>
> *MISSING ON GITHUB DR. RACKET REPO:*
>
>
>
> 1. No CONTRIBUTING.md: from what I can tell - no instructions on how to
> build?
>
> 2. No CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md: this one isn't really necessary for me to pitch
> in - but COCs are the new norm and there are individuals that won't
> consider contributing if there isn't a COC.
>
>
>
> Anyway, if someone in the dev group can provide me with:
>
>
>
> 1. Instructions on how to build (I do most of my development on Ubuntu
> 18.04 but have dual boot into Windows 10 if necessary)
>
> 2. Point me towards solutions to the 3 missing features (as I am new to
> Dr. Racket - I realize these things might exist and I just might not have
> found my way to them) OR confirm that they don't exist
>
>
>
> Thank you for your help in advance! Looking forward to helping out and
> contributing to the Dr. Racket ecosystem.
>
>
>
> Conor
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/conorhoekstra/
>
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