Re: memory usage issue for double-float operations

Matt Kaufmann <[email protected]> Wed, 16 Oct 2024 11:27:18 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.lisp.steel-bank.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Aha!  Thanks so much -- my actual application (from which that email
and the two bug reports were distilled) is now performing as hoped.

Gratefully,
Matt
Stas Boukarev <[email protected]> writes:

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>
> It has to be
> (declaim (ftype (function (t)
>                           (values double-float &optional))
>                 aref0))
>
> i.e. a fixed number of return values.
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 6:54 PM Matt Kaufmann <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I appreciate being able to avoid memory usage when passing
>> double-floats through function calls.  But I'm still running into an
>> issue with that, even with fixes to recent SBCL bugs 2084209 and
>> 2084398.  Using SBCL downloaded and built this morning on my Mac (SBCL
>> 2.4.9.52-28385348a), the simple script below results in memory usage
>> that surprises me, and shows that this usage disappears with inlining:
>>
>> * (load "sbcl-script.lsp")
>> Bytes used for 10000 iterations of (foo *my-ar*): 163840
>> Bytes used for 10000 iterations of (foo-inline *my-ar*): 0
>> T
>> *
>>
>> Am I doing something wrong?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt [script is below]
>> (defvar *my-ar*
>>   (make-array 3
>>               :element-type 'double-float
>>               :initial-contents '(3.0d0 4.0d0 5.0d0)))
>>
>> (declaim (ftype (function (t)
>>                           double-float) ; or (values double-float)
>>                 aref0))
>>
>> (declaim (inline aref0-inline))
>>
>> (defun aref0 (ar)
>>   (the double-float
>>        (aref (the (simple-array double-float (*))
>>                   ar)
>>              0)))
>>
>> (defun aref0-inline (ar)
>>   (the double-float
>>        (aref (the (simple-array double-float (*))
>>                   ar)
>>              0)))
>>
>> (defun foo (ar)
>>   (= (the double-float
>>           (* 2.0d0
>>              (the double-float
>>                   (aref0 ar))))
>>      5.0d0))
>>
>> (defun foo-inline (ar)
>>   (= (the double-float
>>           (* 2.0d0
>>              (the double-float
>>                   (aref0-inline ar))))
>>      5.0d0))
>>
>> ; Bytes used = 163840
>> (let ((start (sb-ext:get-bytes-consed)))
>>   (loop for i from 1 to 10000 do (foo *my-ar*))
>>   (format t "Bytes used for 10000 iterations of (foo *my-ar*): ~s~%"
>>           (- (sb-ext:get-bytes-consed) start)))
>>
>> ; Bytes used = 0
>> (let ((start (sb-ext:get-bytes-consed)))
>>   (loop for i from 1 to 10000 do (foo-inline *my-ar*))
>>   (format t "Bytes used for 10000 iterations of (foo-inline *my-ar*): ~s"
>>           (- (sb-ext:get-bytes-consed) start)))
>>
>> Stas Boukarev <[email protected]> writes:
>>
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>> > It could be made to work without any intervention at all, but it's
>> probably
>> > not a good idea to automatically generate extra entry points when not
>> > needed.
>> > ftype seems reasonable and standard, for now.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 6:19 PM Michał Herda | Keepit <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for that optimization. One more question from me: is this going
>> to
>> >> work automatically with *DERIVE-FUNCTION-TYPES*, or are manual ftype
>> >> proclamations still necessary in that case?
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> *From:* Stas Boukarev <[email protected]>
>> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2024 5:17 PM
>> >> *To:* Matt Kaufmann <[email protected]>
>> >> *Cc:* [email protected] <[email protected]>;
>> >> [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> >> *Subject:* Re: [Sbcl-help] memory usage issue for double-float
>> operations
>> >>
>> >> No block compilation is needed, or any other non-standard feature.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 6:15 PM Matt Kaufmann <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thank you so much; very cool!  Is block compilation necessary for this
>> >> to work?
>> >>
>> >> Stas Boukarev <[email protected]> writes:
>> >>
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>> >> >
>> >> > Now unboxed returns also work. Trace works as well. The following no
>> >> longer
>> >> > conses:
>> >> >
>> >> > (declaim (type (simple-array double-float (1)) *ar*))
>> >> >
>> >> > (defvar *ar* (make-array 1
>> >> >                          :element-type 'double-float
>> >> >                          :initial-element 0.0d0))
>> >> >
>> >> > (declaim (ftype (function (double-float) (values double-float
>> &optional))
>> >> >                 f1))
>> >> >
>> >> > (defun f1 (v)
>> >> >   (+ v v))
>> >> >
>> >> > (declaim (ftype (function (double-float) *) f2))
>> >> >
>> >> > (defun f2 (v)
>> >> >   (loop for i from 1 to 1000
>> >> >         do
>> >> >         (setf (aref *ar* 0) (f1 v))))
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 12:17 AM Stas Boukarev <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I just pushed the initial attempt for unboxed arguments, so the
>> >> following
>> >> >> doesn't cons anymore:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (declaim (ftype (function (double-float double-float) (values t
>> >> >> &optional)) f))
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (defun f (a b)
>> >> >>   (> (+ a b) 3d0))
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (defun bar (n)
>> >> >>   (declare (fixnum n))
>> >> >>   (f (* pi n) (* pi (1+ n))))
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Not consing the return value will come in the near future. #'f works
>> as
>> >> >> expected, and incompatible redefinitions behave reasonably. trace
>> >> doesn't
>> >> >> yet work.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 1:46 AM Stas Boukarev <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> It could be improved in the future, but currently it's really not
>> ready
>> >> >>> for public use and may change at any time.
>> >> >>> You might try block compilation instead.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 1:37 AM Matt Kaufmann <
>> [email protected]>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> I very much appreciate all the replies, and I think I understand.
>> >> >>>> Thank you, all who replied!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> > > That's not directly supported by SBCL's current calling
>> >> conventions.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > It is actually supported, but we don't advertise it or make it
>> >> >>>> well-behaved
>> >> >>>> > when misused.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> In our application we can arrange for every function to have a
>> >> >>>> suitable ftype proclaimed before it is defined, so that
>> double-floats
>> >> >>>> are passed and returned only as indicated by the function's ftype;
>> >> >>>> also, every function is defined before it is called.  If these
>> suffice
>> >> >>>> to guarantee no "misuse" of support for avoiding boxing, and if
>> there
>> >> >>>> is a reasonably simple way to provide that support (like setting
>> some
>> >> >>>> global), then I'd like to know how that can work, provided that
>> such
>> >> >>>> support is likely to remain available in SBCL.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Thanks,
>> >> >>>> Matt
>> >> >>>> Stas Boukarev <[email protected]> writes:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> > [1:multipart/alternative Hide]
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > [1/1:text/plain Hide]
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> >> That's not directly supported by SBCL's current calling
>> >> conventions.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > It is actually supported, but we don't advertise it or make it
>> >> >>>> well-behaved
>> >> >>>> > when misused.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 12:30 AM Christophe Rhodes <
>> >> [email protected]>
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> >> Matt Kaufmann <[email protected]> writes:
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> > I'd really like to avoid boxing of double-floats returned by
>> >> >>>> function
>> >> >>>> >> > calls.
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> Avoiding boxing is, essentially, arranging that there be a known
>> >> >>>> >> location for the callee and the caller to cooperate in writing
>> and
>> >> >>>> >> reading an unboxed return value, without risking that value
>> being
>> >> >>>> >> accidentally interpreted as a tagged lisp object pointer.
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> That's not directly supported by SBCL's current calling
>> >> conventions.
>> >> >>>> >> But you can do it yourself: have your function, instead of
>> >> returning a
>> >> >>>> >> double-float, take as an argument a (simple-array double-float
>> >> (1)),
>> >> >>>> and
>> >> >>>> >> write its result there; the caller can read the value from
>> there,
>> >> and
>> >> >>>> >> all should happen without consing:
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> (defun f1 (v result)
>> >> >>>> >>   (declare (type double-float v)
>> >> >>>> >>            (type (simple-array double-float (1)) result))
>> >> >>>> >>   (setf (aref result 0) (+ v v))
>> >> >>>> >>   (values))
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> (defvar *ar* (make-array 1 :element-type 'double-float))
>> >> >>>> >> (declaim (type (simple-array double-float (1)) *ar*))
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> (defun f2 (v)
>> >> >>>> >>   (let ((f1r (make-array 1 :element-type 'double-float)))
>> >> >>>> >>     (declare (dynamic-extent f1r))
>> >> >>>> >>     (loop repeat 1000
>> >> >>>> >>           do (setf (aref *ar* 0) (progn (f1 v f1r) (aref f1r
>> >> 0))))))
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> Christophe
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> > Below is a small example that boxes unless the function is
>> >> >>>> >> > made inline.  Is there, or could there be, a way to avoid
>> boxing
>> >> the
>> >> >>>> >> > double-float result, other than inlining?  Or should I just
>> >> accept
>> >> >>>> >> > that this is somehow not possible?  (Thanks again, Michał
>> "phoe"
>> >> >>>> >> > Herda, for the reply; note that I've done all I could below to
>> >> avoid
>> >> >>>> >> > boxing inputs.)
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> > (declaim (optimize (compilation-speed 0) (debug 0) (speed 3)
>> >> (space
>> >> >>>> 0)
>> >> >>>> >> >                    (safety 0)))
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> > (declaim (type (simple-array double-float (1)) *ar*))
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> > (defvar *ar* (make-array '(1)
>> >> >>>> >> >                          :element-type 'double-float
>> >> >>>> >> >                          :initial-element 0.0d0))
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> > (declaim (ftype (function (double-float) double-float)
>> >> >>>> >> >                 f1))
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> > ; (declaim (inline f1)) ; eliminates consing for (time (f2
>> >> 1.0d0))
>> >> >>>> below
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> > (defun f1 (v)
>> >> >>>> >> >   (declare (type double-float v))
>> >> >>>> >> >   (the double-float (+ v v)))
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> > (declaim (ftype (function (double-float) *)
>> >> >>>> >> >                 f2))
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> > (defun f2 (v)
>> >> >>>> >> >   (declare (type double-float v))
>> >> >>>> >> >   (loop for i from 1 to 1000
>> >> >>>> >> >         do
>> >> >>>> >> >         (setf (aref (the (simple-array double-float (1))
>> >> >>>> >> >                          *ar*)
>> >> >>>> >> >                     0)
>> >> >>>> >> >               (the double-float (f1 v)))))
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> > ; 32,768 bytes consed, except 0 if f1 calls are inlined:
>> >> >>>> >> > (time (f2 1.0d0))
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> > Matt Kaufmann <[email protected]> writes:
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> >> Very interesting.  I expected the declare form in the defun
>> of
>> >> >>>> >> >> my-update --
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >>     (declare (type (simple-array double-float (*)) ar)
>> >> >>>> >> >>              (type double-float v))
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> -- to avoid boxing.  As another experiment I added the
>> following
>> >> >>>> just
>> >> >>>> >> >> before the defun of my-update -- but consing still occurred.
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> (declaim (ftype (function ((simple-array double-float (*)) t
>> >> >>>> >> double-float)
>> >> >>>> >> >>                           double-float)
>> >> >>>> >> >>                 my-update))
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> Apparently those extra efforts don't change your point about
>> >> >>>> boxing,
>> >> >>>> >> >> which contradicts what I thought I understood.  I appreciate
>> the
>> >> >>>> help!
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>>> >> >> Matt
>> >> >>>> >> >> Michał "phoe" Herda <[email protected]> writes:
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >>> Converting a double float to a function argument requires
>> >> boxing,
>> >> >>>> which
>> >> >>>> >> >>> allocates memory. If the function is inlined, there are no
>> >> >>>> arguments to
>> >> >>>> >> >>> pass, so there can be no consing.
>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>> On 26.09.2024 01:55, Matt Kaufmann wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks so much!
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> I see that suitable THE declarations also avoid consing.
>> But
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> inserting a function call can cause consing, whether using
>> THE
>> >> >>>> or your
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> declaim form, as illustrated below.  I'd be interested in
>> any
>> >> >>>> insights
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> about why that function call causes consing.
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> (declaim (optimize (compilation-speed 0) (debug 0) (speed
>> 3)
>> >> >>>> (space 0)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                     (safety 0)))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ; Optional:
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ; (declaim (type (simple-array double-float (5000)) *ar*))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> (defvar *ar* (make-array '(5000)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                           :element-type 'double-float
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                           :initial-element 0.0d0))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> (loop with i of-type (integer 0 *) = 0 do
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>        (cond ((>= i 5000)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>               (return))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>              (t (progn (setf (aref *ar* i)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                              (float i 0.0d0))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                        (setq i (1+ i))))))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> (defun foo (ar)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>    (loop with i = 0 do
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>          (cond
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>           ((>= i 4999) ; <-- for i from 0 to 4999 ...
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>            (return))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>           (t (setf (aref (the (simple-array double-float
>> (*))
>> >> ar)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                          i)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                    (the double-float
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                         (+ 1.0d0
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                            (the double-float
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                                 (aref (the (simple-array
>> >> >>>> double-float
>> >> >>>> >> *) ar)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                                       i)))))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>              (setq i (1+ i))))))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> (time (foo *ar*)) ; 0 bytes consed
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ; Optional:
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> (declaim (inline my-update))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> (defun my-update (ar i v)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>    (declare (type (simple-array double-float (*)) ar)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>             (type double-float v))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>    (setf (aref (the (simple-array double-float (*)) ar)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                i)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>          v))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> (defun foo2 (ar)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>    (loop with i = 0 do
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>          (cond
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>           ((>= i 4999) ; <-- for i from 0 to 4999 ...
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>            (return))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>           (t (my-update ar
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                         i
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                         (the double-float
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                              (+ 1.0d0
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                                 (the double-float
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                                      (aref (the
>> (simple-array
>> >> >>>> >> double-float *)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                                                 ar)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>                                            i)))))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>              (setq i (1+ i))))))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> (time (foo2 *ar*)) ; 65,536 bytes consed if not inlined, 0
>> >> >>>> otherwise
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks,
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Matt
>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Michał "phoe" Herda <[email protected]> writes:
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> (declaim (type (simple-array double-float (5000)) *ar*))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> On 25.09.2024 21:44, Matt Kaufmann wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> Hi,
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> Is there a way to modify the example below so that the
>> final
>> >> >>>> form
>> >> >>>> >> does
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> not allocate memory in SBCL?  (To be fair, I tried
>> several
>> >> >>>> other
>> >> >>>> >> Lisps
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> as well, and all of them allocated memory.)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> (declaim (optimize (compilation-speed 0) (debug 0)
>> (speed 3)
>> >> >>>> (space
>> >> >>>> >> 0)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>                      (safety 0)))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> (defvar *ar* (make-array '(5000)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>                            :element-type 'double-float
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>                            :initial-element 0.0d0))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> (loop with i of-type (integer 0 *) = 0 do
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>         (cond ((>= i 5000)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>                (return))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>               (t (progn (setf (aref *ar* i)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>                               (float i 0.0d0))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>                         (setq i (1+ i))))))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> (defun foo ()
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>     (loop with i of-type fixnum = 0 do
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>           (cond
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>            ((>= i 4999) ; <-- for i from 0 to 4999 ...
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>             (return))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>            (t (setf (aref *ar* i)
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>                     (the double-float
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>                          (+ 1.0d0
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>                             (the double-float (aref *ar*
>> >> i)))))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>               (setq i (the fixnum (1+ i)))))))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> (time (foo))
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> Thanks,
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> Matt
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>
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