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>> When you were using Comcast servers, it most likely was from your home c=
omputer with Comcast as your service provider, and you were probably using =
port 25. In this situation, SSL/TLS is not required.
> ??? The following, executed on my wife's machine, executes w/o error!
>
> c:\blat\blat xxcopy.log -server smtp.comcast.net:587 -f [email protected] -=
u specialXYZ -pw <password> -to [email protected] -s backup results -debug -l=
og blat_debug.log -timestamp
My local ISP is not Comcast, so I can only guess what Comcast does or what =
it allows. Since you are on Comcast, I will presume Comcast is not requiri=
ng SSL/TLS for connections from its own network. If you attempt to connect=
to a server other than from Comcast, then SSL/TLS is most likely required =
to prevent your credentials from being sniffed by equipment between you and=
the intended POP and SMTP servers. SSL and TLS are encryption standards, =
designed to prevent anyone from determining what data you are sending and r=
eceiving, including user ids and passwords. So far, TLS provides a stronge=
r method of preventing your data from being sniffed out than does SSL.
If you review the Yahoo pages, you will find they require SSL/TLS connectio=
ns. Here is the page to review:
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN4724.html
Incoming Mail (POP) Server
a.. Server - pop.mail.yahoo.com=20
b.. Port - 995=20
c.. Requires SSL - Yes
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server
a.. Server - smtp.mail.yahoo.com=20
b.. Port - 465 or 587=20
c.. Requires SSL - Yes=20
d.. Requires TLS - Yes (if available)=20
e.. Requires authentication - Yes
Your login info
a.. Email address - Your full email address ([email protected].)=20
b.. Password - Your account's password.=20
c.. Requires authentication - Yes
For me at home, I use different profiles with Blat so I can choose to use S=
SL/TLS or not, on a per server basis. When sending to my local cable provi=
der, I do not need SSL or TLS, so I tell Blat to send directly to my servic=
e provider=E2=80=99s SMTP server on port 25. When sending to any other SMT=
P server, such as AT&T that I use most frequently, then I use a program cal=
led stunnel to provide the SSL/TLS connections. For these other servers, I=
have Blat configured to send to 127.0.0.1 on different ports that I have d=
esignated for different SMTP servers. My stunnel configuration file tells =
stunnel on which ports to listen, and where to route traffic when anything =
is received on those ports it is listening to. Stunnel can run when Window=
s starts, it sits in the background quietly listening for any connections t=
o ports it is configured to listen to. This program occupies less than 5 M=
Bytes of memory, and no CPU cycles when quietly listening.
Stunnel can be freely downloaded from https://www.stunnel.org/. If you wan=
t help getting it configured to use with Yahoo, I can post my configuration=
file again, or you can search the Yahoo messages for stunnel and find many=
references to this fine program and configuration files.
Chip
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<DIV>>> When you were using Comcast servers, it most likely was from =
your=20
home computer with Comcast as your service provider, and you were probably =
using=20
port 25. In this situation, SSL/TLS is not required.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> ??? The following, executed on my wife's machine, executes w/o=20
error!</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> c:\blat\blat xxcopy.log -server smtp.comcast.net:587 -f=20
[email protected] -u specialXYZ -pw <password> -to [email protected] -s b=
ackup=20
results -debug -log blat_debug.log -timestamp</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My local ISP is not Comcast, so I can only guess what Comcast does or =
what=20
it allows. Since you are on Comcast, I will presume Comcast is not=20
requiring SSL/TLS for connections from its own network. If you attemp=
t to=20
connect to a server other than from Comcast, then SSL/TLS is most likely=20
required to prevent your credentials from being sniffed by equipment betwee=
n you=20
and the intended POP and SMTP servers. SSL and TLS are encryption=20
standards, designed to prevent anyone from determining what data you are se=
nding=20
and receiving, including user ids and passwords. So far, TLS provides=
a=20
stronger method of preventing your data from being sniffed out than does=20
SSL.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you review the Yahoo pages, you will find they require SSL/TLS=20
connections. Here is the page to review:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN4724.html">https://help.yahoo.=
com/kb/SLN4724.html</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">=
Incoming=20
Mail (POP) Server</FONT></FONT></STRONG></P>
<UL>
<LI><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Serve=
r -=20
</FONT><EM><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">pop.mail.yahoo.com</FONT></EM=
></FONT>=20
<LI><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Port =
-=20
</FONT><EM><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">995</FONT></EM></FONT>=20
<LI><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff=
00;"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Requires SSL - </FONT><EM><FONT style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Yes</FONT></EM></FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
<P><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">=
Outgoing=20
Mail (SMTP) Server</FONT></FONT></STRONG></P>
<UL>
<LI><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Serve=
r</FONT><EM><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;"> -=20
smtp.mail.yahoo.com</FONT></EM></FONT>=20
<LI><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Port =
- <EM>465=20
</EM>or </FONT><EM><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">587</FONT></EM></FONT=
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<LI><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff=
00;"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Requires SSL - </FONT><EM><FONT style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Yes</FONT></EM></FONT></FONT>=20
<LI><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;BACKGRO=
UND-COLOR: #ffff00;">Requires TLS - <EM>Yes</EM>=20
(if available)</FONT></FONT>=20
<LI><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Requi=
res=20
authentication - </FONT><EM><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Yes</FONT></=
EM></FONT></LI></UL>
<P><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">=
Your login=20
info</FONT></FONT></STRONG></P>
<UL>
<LI><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Email=
address -=20
Your full email address ([email protected].)</FONT></FONT>=20
<LI><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Passw=
ord - Your=20
account's password.</FONT></FONT>=20
<LI><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Requi=
res=20
authentication - </FONT><EM><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Yes</FONT></=
EM></FONT></LI></UL>
<DIV>For me at home, I use different profiles with Blat so I can choose to =
use=20
SSL/TLS or not, on a per server basis. When sending to my local cable=
=20
provider, I do not need SSL or TLS, so I tell Blat to send directly to my=20
service provider=E2=80=99s SMTP server on port 25. When sending to an=
y other SMTP=20
server, such as AT&T that I use most frequently, then I use a program c=
alled=20
stunnel to provide the SSL/TLS connections. For these other servers, =
I=20
have Blat configured to send to 127.0.0.1 on different ports that I have=20
designated for different SMTP servers. My stunnel configuration file =
tells=20
stunnel on which ports to listen, and where to route traffic when anything =
is=20
received on those ports it is listening to. Stunnel can run when Wind=
ows=20
starts, it sits in the background quietly listening for any connections to =
ports=20
it is configured to listen to. This program occupies less than 5 MByt=
es of=20
memory, and no CPU cycles when quietly listening.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Stunnel can be freely downloaded from <A title=3D"https://www.stunnel.=
org/" href=3D"https://www.stunnel.org/">https://www.stunnel.org/</A>. =
If you want=20
help getting it configured to use with Yahoo, I can post my configuration f=
ile=20
again, or you can search the Yahoo messages for stunnel and find many refer=
ences=20
to this fine program and configuration files.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Chip</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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