Re: Learning Backscatter
Thomas Anderson <[email protected]>
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On Sat, 2009-01-10 at 17:47 +0000, RW wrote: > I was wondering how good Bogofilter is at distinguishing between > backscatter, and legitimate delivery failure messages. > > Specifically, does it look inside the attached original email. It's not too good at it. I do train my spam bounces, but it tends to make legitimate bounces spammy as well. What I do is weed out known backscatterers first via the ips.backscatterer.org block list, and then (after bogofilter) I push all bounces, spam or not, into a seperate folder for review. The block list doesn't catch all backscatterers of course, but it cuts down a lot. The down side is that some of my clients have had people complain that their emails are rejected due to them being listed as a backscatterer. I'm happy to help them to fix their server and get their ip removed from the list of course, but some might feel put off by it. Nonetheless, after a nasty email bomb as a result of being listed in some spammer's from/return address on a massive scale, I've found it necessary to take this precaution so as not to allow a DoS of the entire system. Also, at that rate of incoming messages, bogofilter would be an inefficient way to deal with backscatter anyway. The DNS block list is far more efficient as a first line of defense. A few times I politely pointed out to administrators that their servers (which weren't yet listed on the block list) were misconfigured, but they usually have a negative reaction unfortunately. Here's one explanation from a guy I just couldn't get through to: "Although our spam filter is not set up in an ideal manner for spoofed email addresses. It allows our clients and other vendors who do email us to receive a notification if we did not receive their email. I apologize that our spam filter is not configured in such a manner that reduces traffice on the internet and I understand this is a result. But, with our business, clients are very demanding, and we cannot change the way we do business and communicate with our clients or even potential clients, at the risk of missing deadlines and so on and so forth. It is just the nature of our business." And unfortunately, that's the nature of the internet for the foreseeable future. Hopefully, if more administrators start using backscatter block lists, it will force those backscatterers to change their ways if they ever intend on their emails making it to their destinations. Tom _______________________________________________ Bogofilter mailing list [email protected] http://www.bogofilter.org/mailman/listinfo/bogofilter