Re: switching between different databases - in 1.3.0.rc1
Rob McEwen via bogofilter <[email protected]> Mon, 09 Jun 2025 01:30:23 +0000
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>>could you provide me a sample message Matthias, https://www.invaluement.com/public_evidence/bogotest-spam.zip (this was a spam sent directly to me - so it's safe to share publicly - please download for long-term usage - this link might not be available in the future) (1) So basically I had a hard time finding this example - because when I'm just manually searching for one like this, the vast majority of what I'm seeing are not that different between versions. So I think examples like this might be somewhat anomalies? (2) But yet meanwhile my overall database size massively bloats in 1.3.0.rc1 (compared to 1.2.5) when training a fresh wordlist.db against a large amount of messages (many 10s of thousands) So these two things (1 and 2) SEEM to contradict each other. So here is my theory as to how they can both be true at the same time: (A) When it does do this boating, it can be very excessive - just like this example - 191 tokens vs 37K tokens. That's a massive difference! So only a tiny percentage of these - can still make a huge difference in the overall size of the database. (B) this boating of tokens tends to happen more with certain attachments - and because messages that have attachments and little else that distinguishes ham/spam - therefore - bogo has been someone weak in dealing with those - and so over the years - as a direct result - I've trained MORE of those types of emails - since my training focuses on what NEEDS training - and meanwhile the ones that bloat have a LARGER overlap with these ones I just described that I trained more often. THEREFORE - my ham/spam folders for bogofilter training have a disproportionately larger amount of these bloating ones - than many batches of message - thus the reason my overall database size being much larger then when I'm using 1.2.5, even if finding such examples is difficult. But now I'm thinking that this bloating might be more like an unintended/intermittent bug? PS - Also, Matthias, thanks for your replies to my other two recent messages. I read all of those carefully and found that to be helpful. Sorry I didn't already reply to those to let you know that. Rob McEwen, invaluement _______________________________________________ bogofilter mailing list [email protected] https://www.bogofilter.org/mailman/listinfo/bogofilter