removing existing SA headers

"Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" <[email protected]> Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:01:38 -0600
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I know this was discussed before on the exim list (by me in fact  many =
many moons ago), but I wanted to get clarification on what is supposed =
to happen.

A friends server that I help run is also running mailman. =20

A member of one of his mail lists posts and SA thinks it is a spam when =
it first is accepted by exim and then passed to mailman, which resends =
it.  This resend is now originating from the server and so we do not =
rerun SA as we have a rule that all email that originates on the server =
do not run SA.   However, the old SA headers are still being picked up =
by rules.  I thought that sa-exim would remove the old headers

Here is an example set of headers  (Ignore the ancient version of Spam =
Assassin -- it is being upgraded)  (I blanked out the actual list name =
as it is not relevant and no need to feed spam machines more targets)

> x-spam-flag: YES
> x-spam-checker-version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on =
utah.object.com
> x-spam-level: *******
> x-spam-status: Yes, score=3D7.4 required=3D5.0 =
tests=3DBAYES_99,GREYLIST_ISWHITE, =
HTML_ATTR_UNIQUE,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=3Ddisabled =
version=3D3.1.7
> x-spam-report: * 1.0 NO_REAL_NAME From: does not include a real name * =
0.6 HTML_ATTR_UNIQUE BODY: HTML appears to have random attributes in * =
tags * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 5.9 BAYES_99 =
BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100% * [score: 1.0000] * -0.1 =
GREYLIST_ISWHITE The incoming server has been whitelisted for this * =
recipient and sender
> x-beenthere: [email protected]
> x-mailman-version: 2.1.9
> precedence: list
> list-id: Friends and Family from the Tri-Coastal Years =
<xxxx.object.com>
> list-unsubscribe: <http://mailman.object.com/mailman/listinfo/xxxx>, =
<mailto:[email protected]?subject=3Dunsubscribe>
> list-archive: <http://mailman.object.com/mailman/private/xxxx>
> list-post: <mailto:[email protected]>
> list-help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=3Dhelp>
> list-subscribe: <http://mailman.object.com/mailman/listinfo/xxxx>, =
<mailto:[email protected]?subject=3Dsubscribe>
> content-type: multipart/mixed; =
boundary=3D"=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D00219766163183168=
45=3D=3D"
> sender: [email protected]
> errors-to: [email protected]
> x-sa-exim-connect-ip: 209.41.94.251
> x-sa-exim-mail-from: [email protected]
> x-sa-exim-scanned: No (on mail.object.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to =
false


The first set os x-spam stuff is from the original receipt by =
exim/sa-exim from the original poster

The final x-sa-exim ones are when it is re-received from mailman...


It has been several years since I messed with the mail system in any =
detail and I am not sure how this is supposed to be happening.

Thanks
Chad


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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
"><div><br></div><div>I know this was discussed before on the exim list =
(by me in fact &nbsp;many many moons ago), but I wanted to get =
clarification on what is supposed to happen.</div><div><br></div><div>A =
friends server that I help run is also running mailman. =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>A member of one of his mail lists posts =
and SA thinks it is a spam when it first is accepted by exim and then =
passed to mailman, which resends it. &nbsp;This resend is now =
originating from the server and so we do not rerun SA as we have a rule =
that all email that originates on the server do not run SA. &nbsp; =
However, the old SA headers are still being picked up by rules. &nbsp;I =
thought that sa-exim would remove the old =
headers</div><div><br></div><div>Here is an example set of headers =
&nbsp;(Ignore the ancient version of Spam Assassin -- it is being =
upgraded) &nbsp;(I blanked out the actual list name as it is not =
relevant and no need to feed spam machines more =
targets)</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>x-spam-flag:&nbsp;</b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; =
">YES<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
"><b>x-spam-checker-version:&nbsp;</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) =
on&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://utah.object.com/">utah.object.com</a><br></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>x-spam-level:&nbsp;</b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; =
">*******<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
"><b>x-spam-status:&nbsp;</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">Yes, score=3D7.4 required=3D5.0 =
tests=3DBAYES_99,GREYLIST_ISWHITE, =
HTML_ATTR_UNIQUE,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=3Ddisabled =
version=3D3.1.7<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
"><b>x-spam-report:&nbsp;</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">* 1.0 NO_REAL_NAME From: does not =
include a real name * 0.6 HTML_ATTR_UNIQUE BODY: HTML appears to have =
random attributes in * tags * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in =
message * 5.9 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100% * =
[score: 1.0000] * -0.1 GREYLIST_ISWHITE The incoming server has been =
whitelisted for this * recipient and sender<br></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>x-beenthere:&nbsp;</b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br></span></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
"><b>x-mailman-version:&nbsp;</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">2.1.9<br></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>precedence:&nbsp;</b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; =
">list<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
"><b>list-id:&nbsp;</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: medium; ">Friends and Family from the Tri-Coastal Years =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"http://roselawn.object.com/">xxxx.object.com</a>&gt;<br></span></d=
iv><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
"><b>list-unsubscribe:&nbsp;</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">&lt;<a =
href=3D"http://mailman.object.com/mailman/listinfo/x">http://mailman.objec=
t.com/mailman/listinfo/x</a>xxx&gt;, =
&lt;mailto:[email protected]?subject=3Dunsubscribe&gt;<br></span></d=
iv><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>list-archive:&nbsp;</b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">&lt;<a =
href=3D"http://mailman.object.com/mailman/private/x">http://mailman.object=
.com/mailman/private/x</a>xxx&gt;<br></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>list-post:&nbsp;</b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]</a>&gt;<br></span><=
/div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
"><b>list-help:&nbsp;</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: medium; =
">&lt;mailto:[email protected]?subject=3Dhelp&gt;<br></span></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>list-subscribe:&nbsp;</b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">&lt;<a =
href=3D"http://mailman.object.com/mailman/listinfo/x">http://mailman.objec=
t.com/mailman/listinfo/x</a>xxx&gt;, =
&lt;mailto:[email protected]?subject=3Dsubscribe&gt;<br></span></div=
><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>content-type:&nbsp;</b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">multipart/mixed; =
boundary=3D"=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D00219766163183168=
45=3D=3D"<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
"><b>sender:&nbsp;</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: medium; "><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br=
></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
"><b>errors-to:&nbsp;</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: medium; "><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br=
></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
"><b>x-sa-exim-connect-ip:&nbsp;</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">209.41.94.251<br></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
"><b>x-sa-exim-mail-from:&nbsp;</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br=
></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
"><b>x-sa-exim-scanned:&nbsp;</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">No (on&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://mail.object.com/">mail.object.com</a>); SAEximRunCond =
expanded to =
false<br></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The =
first set os x-spam stuff is from the original receipt by exim/sa-exim =
from the original poster</div><div><br></div><div>The final x-sa-exim =
ones are when it is re-received from =
mailman...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>It has been several =
years since I messed with the mail system in any detail and I am not =
sure how this is supposed to be =
happening.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Chad</div><div><br></=
div></div></body></html>=

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