Re: migrate from group alias to mailing list
Asif Iqbal <[email protected]> Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:36:09 -0400
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--0016e64ec942a61a4b046ca55b73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Charles Cazabon < [email protected]> wrote: > Asif Iqbal <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > How do I pause all emails coming to [email protected] while doing > > this migration? > > Easiest way is to stop qmail-smtmd (to prevent messages arriving) or stop > qmail-send (to prevent messages already in the queue from being delivered) > or > both. Then do your changeover and restart the service(s). > > While you have qmail-smtpd down, you can put '|bouncesaying "Use > [email protected] mailing list instead"' in ~alias/.qmail-mygroup if you > like. > If you don't want to stop services, you can create the mailing list then > simply replace this .qmail file atomically, which will accomplish the same > thing. > Ok so instead of playing with the active .qmail-mygroup file, I did a test with some other file (alias)@qmail:~$ touch .qmail-newtest (alias)@qmail:~$ ezmlm-make -gsrl -5 [email protected] /maildisk/ example.net/newtest ~/.qmail-newtest newtest example.net ezmlm-make: fatal: unable to create /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-newtest: file already exists That does make sense. So lets try little different approach. (alias)@qmail:~$ rm -rf /maildisk/example.net/newtest (alias)@qmail:~$ ezmlm-make -gsrl -5 [email protected] /maildisk/ example.net/newtest ~/.qmail-newtest2 newtest example.net (alias)@qmail:~$ ls -al .qmail-newtest2* lrwxrwxrwx 1 alias qmail 36 Jun 18 20:23 .qmail-newtest2 -> /maildisk/example.net/newtest/editor lrwxrwxrwx 1 alias qmail 37 Jun 18 20:23 .qmail-newtest2-default -> /maildisk/example.net/newtest/manager lrwxrwxrwx 1 alias qmail 35 Jun 18 20:23 .qmail-newtest2-owner -> /maildisk/example.net/newtest/owner lrwxrwxrwx 1 alias qmail 37 Jun 18 20:23 .qmail-newtest2-return-default -> /maildisk/example.net/newtest/bouncer So now I have to rename them to .qmail-newtest-* (alias)@qmail:~$ mv .qmail-newtest2-default .qmail-newtest-default (alias)@qmail:~$ mv .qmail-newtest2-owner .qmail-newtest-owner (alias)@qmail:~$ mv .qmail-newtest2-return-default .qmail-newtest-return-default (alias)@qmail:~$ rm .qmail-newtest2 (alias)@qmail:~$ ls -al .qmail-newtest* -rw-r--r-- 1 alias qmail 0 Jun 18 20:31 .qmail-newtest lrwxrwxrwx 1 alias qmail 37 Jun 18 20:29 .qmail-newtest-default -> /maildisk/example.net/newtest/manager lrwxrwxrwx 1 alias qmail 35 Jun 18 20:29 .qmail-newtest-owner -> /maildisk/example.net/newtest/owner lrwxrwxrwx 1 alias qmail 37 Jun 18 20:29 .qmail-newtest-return-default -> /maildisk/example.net/newtest/bouncer (alias)@qmail:~$ ls -al /maildisk/example.net/newtest/editor -rw------- 1 alias nofiles 207 Jun 18 20:06 /maildisk/ example.net/newtest/editor (alias)@qmail:~$ rm .qmail-newtest && ln -s /maildisk/ example.net/newtest/editor .qmail-newtest I am guessing the last step is not atomic. Is it? Also is this how you were referring to do as the second option? > Charles > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Charles Cazabon > GPL'ed software available at: http://pyropus.ca/software/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Asif Iqbal PGP Key: 0xE62693C5 KeyServer: pgp.mit.edu A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? --0016e64ec942a61a4b046ca55b73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Charles Cazabon= <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"= >[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla= ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); marg= in: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class=3D"im">Asif Iqbal <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">vadud3= @gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > How do I pause all emails coming to <a href=3D"mailto:mygroup@example.= net">[email protected]</a> while doing<br> > this migration?<br> <br> </div>Easiest way is to stop qmail-smtmd (to prevent messages arriving) or = stop<br> qmail-send (to prevent messages already in the queue from being delivered) = or<br> both. =A0Then do your changeover and restart the service(s).<br> <br> While you have qmail-smtpd down, you can put '|bouncesaying "Use<b= r> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> mailing list instead= "' in ~alias/.qmail-mygroup if you like.<br> If you don't want to stop services, you can create the mailing list the= n<br> simply replace this .qmail file atomically, which will accomplish the same<= br> thing.<br> </blockquote><div><br>Ok so instead of playing with the active .qmail-mygro= up file, I did a test with some other file<br><br>(alias)@qmail:~$ touch .q= mail-newtest<br>(alias)@qmail:~$ ezmlm-make -gsrl -5 <a href=3D"mailto:owne= [email protected]">[email protected]</a> /maildisk/<a href=3D"http://example.ne= t/newtest">example.net/newtest</a> ~/.qmail-newtest newtest <a href=3D"http= ://example.net">example.net</a>=A0=A0=A0=A0 <br> ezmlm-make: fatal: unable to create /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-newtest: file a= lready exists<br><br>That does make sense. So lets try little different app= roach.<br><br>(alias)@qmail:~$ rm -rf /maildisk/<a href=3D"http://example.n= et/newtest">example.net/newtest</a><br> (alias)@qmail:~$ ezmlm-make -gsrl -5 <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">o= [email protected]</a> /maildisk/<a href=3D"http://example.net/newtest">examp= le.net/newtest</a> ~/.qmail-newtest2 newtest <a href=3D"http://example.net"= >example.net</a><br> (alias)@qmail:~$ ls -al .qmail-newtest2*<br>lrwxrwxrwx=A0=A0 1 alias=A0=A0= =A0 qmail=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 36 Jun 18 20:23 .qmail-newtest2 -> /ma= ildisk/<a href=3D"http://example.net/newtest/editor">example.net/newtest/ed= itor</a><br>lrwxrwxrwx=A0=A0 1 alias=A0=A0=A0 qmail=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= 37 Jun 18 20:23 .qmail-newtest2-default -> /maildisk/<a href=3D"http://= example.net/newtest/manager">example.net/newtest/manager</a><br> lrwxrwxrwx=A0=A0 1 alias=A0=A0=A0 qmail=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 35 Jun 18 2= 0:23 .qmail-newtest2-owner -> /maildisk/<a href=3D"http://example.net/ne= wtest/owner">example.net/newtest/owner</a><br>lrwxrwxrwx=A0=A0 1 alias=A0= =A0=A0 qmail=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 37 Jun 18 20:23 .qmail-newtest2-return= -default -> /maildisk/<a href=3D"http://example.net/newtest/bouncer">exa= mple.net/newtest/bouncer</a><br> <br>So now I have to rename them to .qmail-newtest-* <br>(alias)@qmail:~$ m= v .qmail-newtest2-default .qmail-newtest-default<br>(alias)@qmail:~$ mv .qm= ail-newtest2-owner .qmail-newtest-owner<br>(alias)@qmail:~$ mv .qmail-newte= st2-return-default .qmail-newtest-return-default<br> (alias)@qmail:~$ rm .qmail-newtest2<br>(alias)@qmail:~$ ls -al .qmail-newte= st*=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 <br>-rw-r--r--=A0= =A0 1 alias=A0=A0=A0 qmail=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 0 Jun 18 20:31 .qmail= -newtest<br> lrwxrwxrwx=A0=A0 1 alias=A0=A0=A0 qmail=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 37 Jun 18 2= 0:29 .qmail-newtest-default -> /maildisk/<a href=3D"http://example.net/n= ewtest/manager">example.net/newtest/manager</a><br>lrwxrwxrwx=A0=A0 1 alias= =A0=A0=A0 qmail=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 35 Jun 18 20:29 .qmail-newtest-owne= r -> /maildisk/<a href=3D"http://example.net/newtest/owner">example.net/= newtest/owner</a><br> lrwxrwxrwx=A0=A0 1 alias=A0=A0=A0 qmail=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 37 Jun 18 2= 0:29 .qmail-newtest-return-default -> /maildisk/<a href=3D"http://exampl= e.net/newtest/bouncer">example.net/newtest/bouncer</a><br>(alias)@qmail:~$ = ls -al /maildisk/<a href=3D"http://example.net/newtest/editor">example.net/= newtest/editor</a>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 <br> -rw-------=A0=A0 1 alias=A0=A0=A0 nofiles=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 207 Jun 18 20:06 /= maildisk/<a href=3D"http://example.net/newtest/editor">example.net/newtest/= editor</a><br>(alias)@qmail:~$ rm .qmail-newtest && ln -s /maildisk= /<a href=3D"http://example.net/newtest/editor">example.net/newtest/editor</= a> .qmail-newtest <br> <br>I am guessing the last step is not atomic. Is it? Also is this how you = were referring to do as the second option?<br><br><br><br></div><blockquote= class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); = margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> Charles<br> <font color=3D"#888888">--<br> -----------------------------------------------------------------------<br> Charles Cazabon<br> GPL'ed software available at: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <a href=3D"ht= tp://pyropus.ca/software/" target=3D"_blank">http://pyropus.ca/software/</a= ><br> -----------------------------------------------------------------------<br> </font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Asif Iqbal<br>PG= P Key: 0xE62693C5 KeyServer: <a href=3D"http://pgp.mit.edu">pgp.mit.edu</a>= <br>A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.<b= r> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?<br><br><br> --0016e64ec942a61a4b046ca55b73--