Re: XOAUTH2 needed for hotmail.com after September 16 2024

On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 06:27:27AM -0400, Matthias Andree wrote:
> App passwords are the sidestep or workaround while they last.

Yes, app passwords are still working with gmail (October 2 2024):
- https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833

As of September 16, app passwords don't work with hotmail:
- https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d
- https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/outlook-blog/keeping-our-outlook-personal-email-users-safe-reinforcing-our/ba-p/4164184
  "App passwords or Application passwords will be deprecated as part of the Basic Auth deprecation.  You will need to use Modern Auth for all cases."

I can generate an "app password" for my Microsoft account, but using
that password in my .fetchmailrc does not work:

    fetchmail: POP3< -ERR Logon failure: unknown user name or bad password.
    fetchmail: Logon failure: unknown user name or bad password.

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On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 03:43:06PM -0400, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
> Can you instruct your "legacy proprietaruy service" to FORWARD all mail to
> another fetchmail-firendly provider?

Yes, but forwarding from hotmail has Spamassassin SPF problems:

    4.0 SPF_FAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (fail)

Also, fetching email via POP kept my hotmail account alive without me
having to access it in a browser, because POP was treated as a "login".

I've set up hotmail forwarding and have a cron job to remind me to
use a web browser to log in to hotmail every now and then to keep the
account alive.

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