Re: destination/maildir: Manuals seem to use different standards / how to configure correctly?

Hi Larry,

thank You for Your reply! getmail works fine, however, it seems I cannot 
use Sieve - the purpose for using dovecot is to make Thunderbird happy.

I want to get my emails from the provider's server into a maildir, so 
mails are already stored when dovecot "sees" them.

So I need to organize my emails while they are received by getmail, 
before putting them into the maildir - do You have any idea?

Kind regards

Peter



Am 08.07.2018 um 13:03 schrieb Larry Fahnoe:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Yes, if you have delete = false you can make many different test runs 
> without making any changes to the source IMAP server. For your initial 
> tests, use something like:
>
>     message_log_verbose = true
>     verbose = 2
>     message_log = ~/.getmail/log
>
>     max_messages_per_session = 10
>
>     delete = false
>     read_all = true
>
>
> Once you're happy with the way getmail/dovecot_lda/sieve is working, 
> turn down the logging, remove max_messages_per_session and set delete 
> = true. Takes a few reads of the various bits of documentation, but 
> these tools work really well together.
>
> --Larry
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 4:34 AM, Peter Nabbefeld 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>     Hi,
>
>     syncing isn't a solution, as I want to remove all my messages from
>     the provider's server, when I'm ready, so offlineimap and imapsync
>     won't help. getmail's maildir shall be used by dovecot as "mail
>     buffer".
>
>     I've noticed the following two options:
>     * read_all (boolean) — if set, getmail retrieves all available
>     messages. If unset, getmail only retrieves messages it has not
>     seen before. Default: True.
>     * delete (boolean) — if set, getmail will delete messages after
>     retrieving and successfully delivering them. If unset, getmail
>     will leave messages on the server after retrieving them. Default:
>     False.
>
>     If I understand that correctly, this is exactly what I'd expect
>     for a "dry run", when using defaults: Just copy but change nothing
>     (with the exception of some headers after receiving).
>
>     Kind regards
>
>     Peter
>
>
>
>
>     Am 07.07.2018 um 15:05 schrieb RW:
>
>         On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 09:44:42 +0200
>         Peter Nabbefeld wrote:
>
>             Hello,
>
>             I'm trying to setup a dovecot installation with getmail
>             and found
>             these instructions:
>
>             1.
>             http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/configuration.html#destination-maildir
>             <http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/configuration.html#destination-maildir>
>             using "~/Maildir/"
>
>             2.
>             https://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/TriggerGetmailOnIMAPAccess
>             <https://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/TriggerGetmailOnIMAPAccess>
>                  using "~/.maildir"
>
>             3. Using Arch Linux, I've set "mail_location =
>             maildir:~/Maildir" in
>             "/etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf" as advised in their wiki.
>
>             As these folder names seem having to do with storage
>             format, I don't
>             want just to guess, so which variant would be correct?
>
>         It doesn't matter, unless there's something else that cares.
>
>
>             Just to make sure, I'm using the correct toolset:
>
>             I want to move all my mail documents off of my provider
>             (GMX), and I
>             want everything to be stored locally. So I want getmail to
>             fetch
>             everything, including folder structure
>
>         getmail doesn't do that itself, but you might be able to get
>         dovecot sieve to read the folder name from the
>         X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox header and file automatically
>         creating missing folders as it goes. It would rely on some sieve
>         extensions that I don't use, so I'm not sure.
>
>         Alternately there are IMAP syncing programs, such as
>         offlineimap and
>         imapsync, that can sync directly to the maildir folders or
>         through imap.
>         Note that there is no standard for creating maildir subfolders
>         so, if
>         you sync directly make sure that any such program creates them
>         in a way
>         that they can be read by dovecote.
>
>         If you just a one-off transfer from the remote imap server to the
>         local imap server it might be easier to just use a mail client
>         to move
>         the mail manually - and then switch to getmail for new mail.
>
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