Re: destination/maildir: Manuals seem to use different standards / how to configure correctly?

On 2018-07-08 13:31, Peter Nabbefeld wrote:
> Hi Larry,
> 
> thank You for Your reply! getmail works fine, however, it seems I
> cannot use Sieve - the purpose for using dovecot is to make
> Thunderbird happy.
> 
> I want to get my emails from the provider's server into a maildir, so
> mails are already stored when dovecot "sees" them.
> 
> So I need to organize my emails while they are received by getmail,
> before putting them into the maildir - do You have any idea?

If you can't use sieve ? guess you can use procmail to deliver although 
I think people don't use it so much now.

"path = /usr/bin/procmail" in getmailrc0

then make a .procmailrc with the filter options
I'm not sure of the exact syntax as I don't have my .procmailrc anymore.
also can't remember how setup maildir structure before, may have done it 
manually, but this time think used roundcube and the folders plugin to 
make the directories.


mick



> Am 08.07.2018 um 13:03 schrieb Larry Fahnoe:
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> Yes, if you have delete = false you can make many different test runs 
>> without making any changes to the source IMAP server. For your initial 
>> tests, use something like:
>> 
>>     message_log_verbose = true
>>     verbose = 2
>>     message_log = ~/.getmail/log
>> 
>>     max_messages_per_session = 10
>> 
>>     delete = false
>>     read_all = true
>> 
>> 
>> Once you're happy with the way getmail/dovecot_lda/sieve is working, 
>> turn down the logging, remove max_messages_per_session and set delete 
>> = true. Takes a few reads of the various bits of documentation, but 
>> these tools work really well together.
>> 
>> --Larry
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 4:34 AM, Peter Nabbefeld 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>     Hi,
>> 
>>     syncing isn't a solution, as I want to remove all my messages from
>>     the provider's server, when I'm ready, so offlineimap and imapsync
>>     won't help. getmail's maildir shall be used by dovecot as "mail
>>     buffer".
>> 
>>     I've noticed the following two options:
>>     * read_all (boolean) — if set, getmail retrieves all available
>>     messages. If unset, getmail only retrieves messages it has not
>>     seen before. Default: True.
>>     * delete (boolean) — if set, getmail will delete messages after
>>     retrieving and successfully delivering them. If unset, getmail
>>     will leave messages on the server after retrieving them. Default:
>>     False.
>> 
>>     If I understand that correctly, this is exactly what I'd expect
>>     for a "dry run", when using defaults: Just copy but change nothing
>>     (with the exception of some headers after receiving).
>> 
>>     Kind regards
>> 
>>     Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>     Am 07.07.2018 um 15:05 schrieb RW:
>> 
>>         On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 09:44:42 +0200
>>         Peter Nabbefeld wrote:
>> 
>>             Hello,
>> 
>>             I'm trying to setup a dovecot installation with getmail
>>             and found
>>             these instructions:
>> 
>>             1.
>>             
>> http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/configuration.html#destination-maildir
>>             
>> <http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/configuration.html#destination-maildir>
>>             using "~/Maildir/"
>> 
>>             2.
>>             https://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/TriggerGetmailOnIMAPAccess
>>             
>> <https://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/TriggerGetmailOnIMAPAccess>
>>                  using "~/.maildir"
>> 
>>             3. Using Arch Linux, I've set "mail_location =
>>             maildir:~/Maildir" in
>>             "/etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf" as advised in their 
>> wiki.
>> 
>>             As these folder names seem having to do with storage
>>             format, I don't
>>             want just to guess, so which variant would be correct?
>> 
>>         It doesn't matter, unless there's something else that cares.
>> 
>> 
>>             Just to make sure, I'm using the correct toolset:
>> 
>>             I want to move all my mail documents off of my provider
>>             (GMX), and I
>>             want everything to be stored locally. So I want getmail to
>>             fetch
>>             everything, including folder structure
>> 
>>         getmail doesn't do that itself, but you might be able to get
>>         dovecot sieve to read the folder name from the
>>         X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox header and file automatically
>>         creating missing folders as it goes. It would rely on some 
>> sieve
>>         extensions that I don't use, so I'm not sure.
>> 
>>         Alternately there are IMAP syncing programs, such as
>>         offlineimap and
>>         imapsync, that can sync directly to the maildir folders or
>>         through imap.
>>         Note that there is no standard for creating maildir subfolders
>>         so, if
>>         you sync directly make sure that any such program creates them
>>         in a way
>>         that they can be read by dovecote.
>> 
>>         If you just a one-off transfer from the remote imap server to 
>> the
>>         local imap server it might be easier to just use a mail client
>>         to move
>>         the mail manually - and then switch to getmail for new mail.
>> 

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