Re: OT: Roland Puntaier / "getmail6" drama

Just one thing, to the fellow up in the list stating that the continued use of the name for a bad faith fork is somehow a sign of continuity.

Getmail is production software. It runs in my house for the last decade and a half and does it’s job. Never a problem, never a stop, never a bug

Getmail6 seems to be a buggy heap of garbage, judging from the issues list on GitHub and I am shocked thar Debian made it a straight upgrade path. 

Sent from my phone. Please forgive misspellings and weird “corrections”

> On 28 Oct 2021, at 21:10, David Breakey <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 10/28/21 12:46 PM, Stefan Krah wrote:
>> This is how productive people are exploited all over the world. The work
>> horse has done his duty, now a politburo of pigs decides what is good for
>> the "community". Literally Animal Farm.
>> 
>> What software have you written? Where are your repositories?
>> 
>> 
>> Stefan Krah
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> It boggles my mind that there are people digging their heels in over this; Charles has made one simple request--well, more than one, but let's focus--please change the name of the forked copy, and here we have people digging their heels in and saying, essentially "No; I don't wanna."
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> As Charles pointed out, and indeed I've been guilty of this very thing, when people have problems with getmail6, they simply go searching for "getmail"; they assume, as I have on other projects, that the "6" simply means "This is a new version released by the same person/team." That's just how human minds work; optimizing away what seems to be irrelevant minutiae. Brains are lazy; they have to be. How many times have you missed "the the" in a sentence? Trust me; that's happened. Even if you haven't noticed it.
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> It's in a different repository? So what. Maybe he just decided to make a clean break and host v6 on GitHub. I don't know, and unless I see something that clearly shows otherwise, even I'm not going to assume it's a whole new maintainer. And that assumes I even bother checking, which I probably won't *until* I have problems. And I consider myself an expert user.
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> With a noticeably different name; eg "getmail-ng", "getmail-py3" or any of a host of others I've seen offered here--that might have been enough to jar me out of routine complacency, and recognize "Hey, this might not be the same person/team." Something to jog my otherwise lazy brain. And certainly something that would be less likely to be pulled in incorrectly by automated workflows, say one set up by a Debian package maintainer who has dozens or even hundreds of packages they're responsible for.
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> Note, I haven't had this specific problem; frankly, I stopped using getmail years ago because I set up a workflow where I no longer needed it, but I've enjoyed reading the conversations over the years, so have remained subscribed.
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> I have no doubt that if/when Charles ever releases a Python3 version, it will only be once it meets the same high standards he has so clearly shown for the current releases, and the ones I've used directly.
> 
> Thank you, Charles, for such an incredible and useful tool; I found it valuable when I needed it, and will happily return if I need to.
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