gotmail sorta working
"Kerry Blalock" <[email protected]> Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:19:55 -0500 (EST)
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I have gotmail v 8, I believe, working on one user on my postfix, squirrellmail, RH 9 system. I set it up with a cron job that runs every 15 minutes, and reads the info in users .gotmailrc file. I have another user, using spanish language in squirrelmail, that I cannot get gotmail to retrieve hotmail. It grinds and grinds, but does not get the mail. If needed, I can get the message I receive at the end. Thanks for a great product, Kerry > with other MS products. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Forth" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:48 PM > Subject: RE: [gotmail] out there suggestion... > > >> Since MS changed their hotmail pages that last time that broke gotmail >> I have been using OE 6 (6.00.2800.1123)and would like to report there >> are no ads in that interface so I can't that being the main driving >> force behind > MS >> changing the site on a regular basis. Not being a programmer I can't > really >> offer any suggestions as to how to fix the perl script but it would >> seem > to >> me that since OE doesn't break there has to be some way to get around >> MS changing it's site? >> >> Brian >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf >> Of John Fruetel >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:27 PM >> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [gotmail] out there suggestion... >> >> >> I've actually thought about this quite a bit. Gotmail is basically a > fancy >> 'screen scraper' that looks like a regular user to Hotmail. As such, >> it's prone to break every time MS changes the hotmail pages, like what >> just happened. >> >> Paul Cannon, who worked on this project just before I did, also works >> on hotwayd. According to Paul, the http mail protocol isn't 100% >> either. > I'd >> rather Paul spoke about this, but I got the impression from him that >> the http mail protocol isn't a bad of roses either. Although it's not >> as > likely >> to break as gotmail is, it has it's own set of problems. >> >> I write web services all the time at work. In fact, I use the amazon >> webservices to test things. I even have a webservice on bigfatdude to > check >> e-mails for spaminess. >> >> The problem here is that Microsoft doesn't seem to want to make it >> easy to use Hotmail via a webservice. Somebody can correct me if I'm >> wrong, but > as >> far as I know http mail is still sorta proprietary to MS and they >> don't > seem >> interested in opening it up. They want you to go to the web page to >> use hotmail and see all the advertising. In fact, some years ago, >> Outlook Express would show the same ads as hotmail when you used OE as >> a hotmail client. >> >> So, I guess I'm agreeing here... There is a lot of 'cross-over' > development >> happening here. But I think that gotmail might be a little more > functional >> than hotwayd at the moment. By 'functional', I mean it can do more. >> But > if >> hotwayd can indeed do all the low-level functionality that gotmail >> needs, I'm all for using it in the future. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ben Staniford" <[email protected]> >> To: "'E H R'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 5:00 PM >> Subject: RE: [gotmail] out there suggestion... >> >> >> > Hello, >> > >> > You're not the only one :-) Have you heard of WSDL (Web service >> description language)? Microsoft, Sun and IBM and are all piling >> loads of money into XML based web services for websites (there's >> open source stuff too I think) so that programs don't break when the >> interface changes. The WSDL is stored in a public directory (Like >> LDAP) so that anyone can go and check out the interface and write >> programs for it. There are cool programs for java/perl etc that >> allow you to auto generate a set of classes (called stub classes) >> for the web services interface so all you have to do is call the >> methods from within your program and you can access all the data >> from the website. You can already get these XML interfaces for >> amazon.com and many others. So, once everyone has them, HTML >> changes won't break things like they do now. >> > >> > Benj.. >> > >> > >-----Original Message----- >> > >From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:gotmail- >> > >[email protected]] On Behalf Of E H R Sent: >> 17 December 2003 00:41 >> > >To: [email protected] >> > >Subject: [gotmail] out there suggestion... >> > > >> > >I have a rather large collection of webmails(on different systems) >> and >> > tend >> > >to need a whole collection of daemons to run them all, now I was >> > looking at >> > >one of them(for mail.com) and I remembered that since the hotmail >> and >> > yahoo >> > >rebuilds, a lot of work was going on. Now I know the other >> > >project(pywebmail) doesn't use the same language as gotmail(perl) >> but I thought it was interesting it used xml for storing >> webmail-server behaviour... Could some kind of collaborative >> effort, perhaps using >> > those >> > >same xml files, be built, so that there is less duplication of >> effort >> > when >> > >hotmail et al decide to make our lives difficult? >> > > >> > >I've used fetchyahoo, gotmail, mrpostman, hotwayd, web2pop and >> > pywebmail(at >> > >least) so far, and I did notice that keeping up with the provides >> is probably the largest part of the update work. >> > > >> > >Am I the only one who sees a great idea in this ? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >Gotmail-list mailing list >> > >[email protected] >> > >http://mail.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gotmail-list >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gotmail-list mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://mail.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gotmail-list >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gotmail-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gotmail-list >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous >> content and is believed to be clean. >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous >> content and is believed to be clean. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gotmail-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gotmail-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gotmail-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gotmail-list