Re: SPF is harmful. Adopt it.
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <[email protected]>
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| Organization | Wack's Wicks Works |
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JdeBP> Third: A message store is a server, whereas an SMTP Relay JdeBP> puppet is a client. The traffic patterns for the two are JdeBP> noticably different. And note that some organizations JdeBP> _already_ put measures in place to prevent all machines, JdeBP> other than the ones that they specifically designate, JdeBP> from running public servers. ILT> This is a good point. PJH> Not that good. Many organizations already block port 25 outgoing. PJH> Even some ISPs do that for their "consumer" DSL products. And they get into trouble with their customers for doing it. It's generally considered to be an inept idea whose long term consequences have been ignored by those who deploy it. It's ironic that you mention DSL. "Consumer DSL" is almost always ADSL, and the 'A' in "ADSL" is there precisely because the model is that customers will generally be clients connecting to servers Out On Internet, and not be running servers for the rest of Internet to connect to. Customers become quite upset when ISPs start dictating what servers they, as clients, can connect to, given that that's their supposed rôle in ADSL. But, conversely, they find themselves on shakier ground, given the 'A', when ISPs prevent the world from accessing servers that they themselves run. (Of course, the bandwidth asymmetry is not always tilted towards the client. An ISP would have a hard time defending a prohibition on running an MSOAP server on asymmetric bandwidth requirements grounds, for example. However, we are discussing MSRAP servers here.) Of course, a far better approach than foolishly and shortsightedly blocking connections to particular remote ports is to move the world to a point where it _doesn't matter_ that "edge" machines try to connect to SMTP Relay services, since everyone will either be running Snubby The Mail Rejector or simply not providing SMTP Relay service at all.