Re: Courier 20240725 development build

Sam Varshavchik <[email protected]> Thu, 12 Sep 2024 07:23:17 -0400
Newsgroups	gmane.mail.imap.courier.general
Message-ID	<[email protected]>
Bernd Wurst writes:

>> But that kind of setup is problematic in other ways, as it does not allow  
>> other things as well – it would not be possible, for example, to use a per- 
>> account ~/.mailfilter, unless it twists itself into contortions by looking  
>> at the environment in order to figure out the right maildir.
>
> I disagree, this setup did not have any problems until now.
>
> If we would like to set up a .courier file for each user, we would have to  
> do this via a cron job and accounts would take some time to be generated. We

I don't see why cron has to be involved. It's not like the same .courier  
file needs to be created over, and over again.

You must have some process in place for provisioning new mailboxes.  
Something already has to create that maildir when the record for the new  
account gets added to your user database. Well, that something simply needs  
to install that .courier file, too, as part of the deal.
 
> avoid this delay as the database has the needed information just in time.
>
> We deliver messages to maildirs via dovecot-mda that supports SIEVE filters  
> for each user. So filters are manageable from the MUA.

You are combining bits and pieces of two different things (Courier and  
Dovecot) that work in different ways.

You'll find it easier to stick to just one goose in the pot. With Courier,  
the equivalent functionality is done by using the entire Courier package,  
enabling sqwebmail, and mail filtering, and then define mail filters after  
logging in to the account's webmail. sqwebmail's UI is old, and does not  
play buzzword bingo games with current UI fads (material design, etc…), but  
it does not require Javascript, and works well with assistive tools just as  
screen readers, for visually impaired.

> So your suggestion is to create and manage hundreds of homedirs and .courier  
> files for every virtual account via cron jobs?

You are already creating a bunch of directories for every user: the maildir  
itself. This is just one more directory.

Having said all that, it wouldn't be too complicated to make the alternative  
+ separator character optional, that just adds a little bit more complexity.

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