Re: cyrus + roundcube + managesieve for vacation notification

On 12/16/2017 04:55 AM, Patrick Goetz wrote:
> Just a quick follow up:  Vladislav was correct; there is no need to have 
> both sieve and managesieve lines in /etc/cyrus/cyrus.conf.  I removed 
> the managesieve line and the vacation sieve filter is working fine. 
> Sieve does appear in /etc/services (I guess check for your OS?), but 
> it's not clear to me at the moment how this is relevant.

/etc/services is like a hosts file for ports. If you try to use 
something like servername:sieve instead of servername:4190 then sieve 
has to be defined as port 4190 in /etc/services .


Simple example using telnet to ssh port:



[boutilpj@ls6000 ~]$ telnet localhost ssh
Trying ::1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.3
quit
Protocol mismatch.
Connection closed by foreign host.


> 
> The documentation page Nic mentioned does talk about global filters, but 
> doesn't provide any clues about where such things should be placed. 
> Following the dovecot example, I created this folder:
> 
>     /var/imap/sieve/global
> 
> which likely won't ever get used, but the managesieve plugin wants to 
> know about it anyway.
> 
> Since the roundcube managesieve plugin doesn't necessarily do everything 
> for you (if you want to retain the option of setting up other filters), 
> I found a nice one page web tutorial you can provide users:
> 
>    https://www.theedesign.com/blog/2016/set-office-message-roundcube
> 
> The alternative to this to set
> 
>     $config['managesieve_vacation'] = 1;
> 
> in config.inc.php in the managesieve plugins directory, which adds a 
> vacation menu item the setting menu.  If your users (like mine) are only 
> ever going to use a vacation filter and are easily confused, you can set
> 
>     $config['managesieve_vacation'] = 2;
> 
> This hides the filter menu and leaves only the vastly more user friendly 
> vacation menu item.
> 
> This is all pretty easy to set up, once you know what to use and how to 
> do it, I don't understand why it's not documented better.  I've been 
> scratching my head over how to provide this feature for years.
> 
> 
> On 12/15/2017 07:51 AM, Nic Bernstein wrote:
>> On 12/15/2017 07:38 AM, Vladislav Kurz wrote:
>>> On 12/15/17 12:57, Patrick Goetz wrote:
>>>> Many thanks to Vladislav and Merlin for setting me in the right
>>>> direction for setting up user-activated vacation notifications.  A
>>>> couple of follow up questions:
>>>>
>>>> On 12/14/2017 03:31 AM, Vladislav Kurz wrote:
>>>>>> Also, is there anything special I need to do with my cyrus 
>>>>>> configuration
>>>>>> to allow for roundcube to notify imapd about sieve rules being
>>>>>> activated/deactivated?
>>>>> Just uncomment the sieve line in cyrus.conf
>>>> Following the documentation here:
>>>>   https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/admin/sieve.html
>>>>
>>>> it looks like I also need to add a managesieve line to
>>>> /etc/cyrus/cyrus.conf?
>>>>
>>>>     sieve         cmd="timsieved" listen="servername:sieve" prefork=0
>>>>     managesieve   cmd="timsieved" listen="servername:4190" prefork=0
>>>>
>>>> Is this correct, or am I doing some superfluous?  I enabled managesieve
>>>> and roundcube is talking to the sieve server, but didn't test without.
>>> Hello Patrick,
>>>
>>> these lines look like the same. Sieve port is 4190, and the first item
>>> is IMHO just a name. Just keep the first one.
>>
>> Actually, these may not be the same, depending on the contents of 
>> /etc/services for the "sieve" service.  This used to be 2000, prior to 
>> standardization in RFC5804.  So, if your /etc/services lists 4190, 
>> then get rid of the duplicate line.  The fact that Cyrus starts with 
>> both lines defined makes me think that either sieve isn't listed in 
>> /etc/services (which should have resulted in an error) or that it 
>> isn't 4190, since one cannot have two services defined for the same 
>> listen port.
>>
>>>
>>>> Since this is our first time using sieve, I haven't worried about this
>>>> too much until now, but roundcube+managesieve  seems to be concerned
>>>> about the location of global sieve scripts:
>>>>
>>>>     // default contents of filters script (eg. default spam filter)
>>>>     // $config['managesieve_default'] = '/etc/dovecot/sieve/global';
>>>>     $config['managesieve_default'] = '/var/imap/sieve';
>>>>
>>> There is nothing like global sieve script in cyrus (at least I did not
>>> find a way how to do it.)
>>
>> There is.  Please see the documentation here:
>> https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/admin/sieve.html#sieve-scripts-in-shared-folders 
>>
>>
>> Quoting:
>>>
>>> Cyrus has two types of repositories where Sieve scripts can live:
>>>
>>> 1.
>>>
>>>     *Personal* is per user and
>>>
>>> 2.
>>>
>>>     *Global* is for every user. Global scripts aren’t applied on
>>>     incoming messages by default: users must include them in their
>>>     scripts.
>>>           * Note that there are two types of Global scripts: *global*
>>>             and *global per domain*.
>>>
>> Cheers,
>>      -nic
>>
>>
>>> The option above is path to a default script (file, not folder) that
>>> will be applied to the user upon first login to roundcube. I use it as a
>>> template for users with some recommended settings or disabled examples.
>>> I usually put it into /etc/roundcube/roundcube.script, but you can put
>>> it almost anywhere. (perhaps somewhere in document_root for roundcube is
>>> also fine).
>>>
>>> Do not rely on it as default. It is applied only if the user does not
>>> have a sieve script yet. After that users are free to modify it. If
>>> someone does not use roundcube at all, he will not get that script 
>>> applied.
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Nic [email protected]
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>>
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