Re: dbmail configuration

Claas Kähler <[email protected]> Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:53:08 +0200
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Dear David,

do your self a favor and run! Do not use DBMail!=20
Once the idea was great, but there has been no (visible) progress for =
years now! The community is dying and Harald's reaction to your request =
also suggests that there is no interest in attracting new people to the =
project.

Instead, I would recommend you to use e.g. plain Postfix or take a look =
at Mailcow ( http://mailcow.email ).=20

Cheers,
Claas


> Am 03.04.2020 um 21:21 schrieb David in Denver <[email protected]>:
>=20
> Installing 3.2.3 on debian 9, postgres 9.6.17
>=20
> WHY WHY WHY! is the documentation STILL so incomplete?  Why hasn't =
anyone put a COMPLETE minimum working example of master.cf, main.cf, =
sql-recipients.cf, sql-virtual_mailbox_domains.cf, =
sql-virtual_mailbox_maps.cf, and pg_hba.conf?  I've looked and can't =
find anything for 3.2.3 -- oh, there's stuff out there that is outdated =
by a decade, but nothing current that I can find.
>=20
> Do you have to start the imapd or other services, or do they start on =
their own? what's the difference if I use ldap vs. sql as a driver?  if =
I use pgsql as a hash to the postgres tables, does that mean I should =
use ldap as the hash instead?  chroot default changed to yes from no, =
does that mean the smtp line needs to be changed or the dbmail-lmtp line =
at the end of master.cf?
>=20
> What's this 'compatability' line?  set at 2? What does that mean, oh, =
look, no documentation.  If I'm using old config files from version 2, =
should it be changed to something else?
>=20
> Why isn't there an install script that downloads installs and =
configures postfix, postgresql and dbmail (or other combinations)?  =
Millions of man-hours to write awesome software, loads of documentation, =
and as nebulous and unusable as ever.  This is the reason people don't =
want to migrate away from Microsuck operating systems.
>=20
> RE: 3.2.3/INSTALL, part 2.  ..."Edit the dbmail.conf file and set =
everything to your likings."  What? what does that mean?  Why not =
provide a MWE of what dbmail.conf should look like and explain anything =
that shouldn't be left default.
>=20
> In my case, I can't insert users using dbmail-users; and you don't =
have any troubleshooting FAQs on your website or on the Install docs.  =
Maybe, because of my frustration over this, I've missed something, but =
I've spent 3 whole days on this ONE issue.  Someone (group) really needs =
to work on an install script.
>=20
> I need to be put back on the mail server.
> _______________________________________________
> DBmail mailing list
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail =
<https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail>

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Dear =
David,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">do your self =
a favor and run! Do not use DBMail!&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Once the =
idea was great, but there has been no (visible) progress for years now! =
The community is dying and&nbsp;Harald's reaction to your request also =
suggests that there is no interest in attracting new people to the =
project.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Instead, I would recommend you to use e.g. plain Postfix or =
take a look at Mailcow ( <a href=3D"http://mailcow.email" =
class=3D"">http://mailcow.email</a> ).&nbsp;</div></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div =
class=3D"">Claas</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Am 03.04.2020 um 21:21 schrieb David in Denver &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" =
class=3D"">[email protected]</a>&gt;:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Installing =
3.2.3 on debian 9, postgres 9.6.17</div><div style=3D"font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">WHY WHY =
WHY! is the documentation STILL so incomplete? &nbsp;Why hasn't anyone =
put a COMPLETE minimum working example of master.cf, main.cf, =
sql-recipients.cf, sql-virtual_mailbox_domains.cf, =
sql-virtual_mailbox_maps.cf, and pg_hba.conf? &nbsp;I've looked and =
can't find anything for 3.2.3 -- oh, there's stuff out there that is =
outdated by a decade, but nothing current that I can find.</div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">Do you have to start the imapd or other services, or do they =
start on their own? what's the difference if I use ldap vs. sql as a =
driver? &nbsp;if I use pgsql as a hash to the postgres tables, does that =
mean I should use ldap as the hash instead? &nbsp;chroot default changed =
to yes from no, does that mean the smtp line needs to be changed or the =
dbmail-lmtp line at the end of master.cf?</div><div style=3D"font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">What's this =
'compatability' line? &nbsp;set at 2? What does that mean, oh, look, no =
documentation. &nbsp;If I'm using old config files from version 2, =
should it be changed to something else?</div><div style=3D"font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Why isn't =
there an install script that downloads installs and configures postfix, =
postgresql and dbmail (or other combinations)? &nbsp;Millions of =
man-hours to write awesome&nbsp;software, loads of documentation, and as =
nebulous and unusable as ever. &nbsp;This is the reason people don't =
want to migrate away from Microsuck operating systems.</div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">RE: 3.2.3/INSTALL, part 2. &nbsp;..."Edit the dbmail.conf =
file and set everything to your likings." &nbsp;What? what does that =
mean? &nbsp;Why not provide a MWE of what dbmail.conf should look like =
and explain anything that shouldn't be left default.</div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">In my case, I can't insert users using dbmail-users; and you =
don't have any troubleshooting FAQs on your website or on the Install =
docs. &nbsp;Maybe, because of my frustration over this, I've missed =
something, but I've spent 3 whole days on this ONE issue. &nbsp;Someone =
(group) really needs to work on an install script.</div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">I need to be put back on the mail server.</div><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________</span><br =
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">DBmail mailing list</span><br =
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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