Re: dbmail configuration
David in Denver <[email protected]> Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:34:12 +0000
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--===============8768356087677833377== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CY4PR15MB1240911DB9FC5C2144031495B4C50CY4PR15MB1240namp_" --_000_CY4PR15MB1240911DB9FC5C2144031495B4C50CY4PR15MB1240namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yep, I've already gone to postfix, postgres and dovecot, and I'll go look a= t mailcow. tx. ________________________________ From: DBmail <[email protected]> on behalf of Claas K=E4hler <cla= [email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 5:53 AM To: DBMail mailinglist <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Dbmail] dbmail configuration Dear David, do your self a favor and run! Do not use DBMail! Once the idea was great, but there has been no (visible) progress for years= now! The community is dying and Harald's reaction to your request also sug= gests that there is no interest in attracting new people to the project. Instead, I would recommend you to use e.g. plain Postfix or take a look at = Mailcow ( http://mailcow.email ). Cheers, Claas Am 03.04.2020 um 21:21 schrieb David in Denver <[email protected]<mailto:= [email protected]>>: Installing 3.2.3 on debian 9, postgres 9.6.17 WHY WHY WHY! is the documentation STILL so incomplete? Why hasn't anyone p= ut a COMPLETE minimum working example of master.cf, main.cf, sql-recipients= .cf, sql-virtual_mailbox_domains.cf, sql-virtual_mailbox_maps.cf, and pg_hb= a.conf? I've looked and can't find anything for 3.2.3 -- oh, there's stuff= out there that is outdated by a decade, but nothing current that I can fin= d. Do you have to start the imapd or other services, or do they start on their= own? what's the difference if I use ldap vs. sql as a driver? if I use pg= sql as a hash to the postgres tables, does that mean I should use ldap as t= he hash instead? chroot default changed to yes from no, does that mean the= smtp line needs to be changed or the dbmail-lmtp line at the end of master= .cf? What's this 'compatability' line? set at 2? What does that mean, oh, look,= no documentation. If I'm using old config files from version 2, should it= be changed to something else? Why isn't there an install script that downloads installs and configures po= stfix, postgresql and dbmail (or other combinations)? Millions of man-hour= s to write awesome software, loads of documentation, and as nebulous and un= usable as ever. This is the reason people don't want to migrate away from = Microsuck operating systems. RE: 3.2.3/INSTALL, part 2. ..."Edit the dbmail.conf file and set everythin= g to your likings." What? what does that mean? Why not provide a MWE of w= hat dbmail.conf should look like and explain anything that shouldn't be lef= t default. In my case, I can't insert users using dbmail-users; and you don't have any= troubleshooting FAQs on your website or on the Install docs. Maybe, becau= se of my frustration over this, I've missed something, but I've spent 3 who= le days on this ONE issue. Someone (group) really needs to work on an inst= all script. I need to be put back on the mail server. _______________________________________________ DBmail mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail --_000_CY4PR15MB1240911DB9FC5C2144031495B4C50CY4PR15MB1240namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> <style type=3D"text/css" style=3D"display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bo= ttom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> yep, I've already gone to postfix, postgres and dovecot, and I'll go look a= t mailcow. tx.</div> <div id=3D"appendonsend"></div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col= or:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <hr tabindex=3D"-1" style=3D"display:inline-block; width:98%"> <div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" co= lor=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> DBmail <dbmail-bou= [email protected]> on behalf of Claas K=E4hler <[email protected]&g= t;<br> <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 5, 2020 5:53 AM<br> <b>To:</b> DBMail mailinglist <[email protected]><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dbmail] dbmail configuration</font> <div> </div> </div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word; line-break:after-white-space= ">Dear David, <div class=3D""><br class=3D""> </div> <div class=3D"">do your self a favor and run! Do not use DBMail! </div= > <div class=3D"">Once the idea was great, but there has been no (visible) pr= ogress for years now! The community is dying and Harald's reaction to = your request also suggests that there is no interest in attracting new peop= le to the project.</div> <div class=3D""><br class=3D""> </div> <div class=3D""> <div class=3D"">Instead, I would recommend you to use e.g. plain Postfix or= take a look at Mailcow ( <a href=3D"http://mailcow.email" class=3D"">http://mailcow.email</a> ).&nbs= p;</div> </div> <div class=3D""><br class=3D""> </div> <div class=3D"">Cheers,</div> <div class=3D"">Claas</div> <div class=3D""><br class=3D""> </div> <div class=3D""> <div><br class=3D""> <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""> <div class=3D"">Am 03.04.2020 um 21:21 schrieb David in Denver <<a href= =3D"mailto:[email protected]" class=3D"">[email protected]</a>>:</di= v> <br class=3D"x_Apple-interchange-newline"> <div class=3D""> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> Installing 3.2.3 on debian 9, postgres 9.6.17</div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> <br class=3D""> </div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> WHY WHY WHY! is the documentation STILL so incomplete? Why hasn't any= one put a COMPLETE minimum working example of master.cf, main.cf, sql-recip= ients.cf, sql-virtual_mailbox_domains.cf, sql-virtual_mailbox_maps.cf, and = pg_hba.conf? I've looked and can't find anything for 3.2.3 -- oh, there's stuff out there that is outdated by a de= cade, but nothing current that I can find.</div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> <br class=3D""> </div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> Do you have to start the imapd or other services, or do they start on their= own? what's the difference if I use ldap vs. sql as a driver? if I u= se pgsql as a hash to the postgres tables, does that mean I should use ldap= as the hash instead? chroot default changed to yes from no, does that mean the smtp line needs to be changed o= r the dbmail-lmtp line at the end of master.cf?</div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> <br class=3D""> </div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> What's this 'compatability' line? set at 2? What does that mean, oh, = look, no documentation. If I'm using old config files from version 2,= should it be changed to something else?</div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> <br class=3D""> </div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> Why isn't there an install script that downloads installs and configures po= stfix, postgresql and dbmail (or other combinations)? Millions of man= -hours to write awesome software, loads of documentation, and as nebul= ous and unusable as ever. This is the reason people don't want to migrate away from Microsuck operating systems.</div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> <br class=3D""> </div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> RE: 3.2.3/INSTALL, part 2. ..."Edit the dbmail.conf file and set= everything to your likings." What? what does that mean? W= hy not provide a MWE of what dbmail.conf should look like and explain anyth= ing that shouldn't be left default.</div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> <br class=3D""> </div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> In my case, I can't insert users using dbmail-users; and you don't have any= troubleshooting FAQs on your website or on the Install docs. Maybe, = because of my frustration over this, I've missed something, but I've spent = 3 whole days on this ONE issue. Someone (group) really needs to work on an install script.</div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> <br class=3D""> </div> <div class=3D"" style=3D"font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-= weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te= xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:no= ne; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> I need to be put back on the mail server.</div> <span class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px; font-style= :normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:norma= l; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:norm= al; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:none; float:none; display:inline!impo= rtant">_______________________________________________</span><br class=3D""= style=3D"font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-va= riant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:st= art; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing= :0px; text-decoration:none"> <span class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px; font-style= :normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:norma= l; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:norm= al; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:none; float:none; display:inline!impo= rtant">DBmail mailing list</span><br class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica; font-siz= e:12px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal; le= tter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none= ; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:none"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:Helv= etica; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-we= ight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:start; text-in= dent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; widows:auto; word-spacin= g:0px">[email protected]</a><br class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica= ; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:= normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-tran= sform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:none"> <a href=3D"https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail" class=3D""= style=3D"font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-va= riant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; orphans:auto;= text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal= ; widows:auto; word-spacing:0px">https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listi= nfo/dbmail</a></div> </blockquote> </div> <br class=3D""> </div> </div> </body> </html> --_000_CY4PR15MB1240911DB9FC5C2144031495B4C50CY4PR15MB1240namp_-- --===============8768356087677833377== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KREJtYWlsIG1h aWxpbmcgbGlzdApEQm1haWxAbGlzdHMubmZnLm5sCmh0dHBzOi8vbGlzdHMubmZnLm5sL2NnaS1i aW4vbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9kYm1haWwK --===============8768356087677833377==--