Re: dbmail configuration

Andrea Brancatelli <[email protected]> Mon, 06 Apr 2020 10:44:55 +0200
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There are no upgrade for the SQL base coming in, so you'll be able go
just upgrade the software without any issue. 

Of course it has to be tested a while before switching it in production,
but as you can easily see all the commits are basically bug fixs.

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Andrea Brancatelli

On 2020-04-06 10:42, Reindl Harald wrote:

> Am 06.04.20 um 10:38 schrieb Andrea Brancatelli: 
> 
>> You all realise there are a lot of commit coming in on GitHub, right?
>> 
>> https://github.com/dbmail/dbmail/commits/master
> 
> if nobody manages releases tha don't help much
> 
> given my expierience back when upgrade to 3.0 and especially 3.1 that#s
> the reason that i even don't consider update to 3.2
> 
> in both cases 3ö0 and 3.1 we had massive issues like completly empty
> mails with pop3, all sort of broken mails over imap depending on the
> mail body at reconstruction and it#s even unclear if all the bugfix fopr
> latest 3.1 made it to github
> 
> when i face similar issues as with the latest point update swith a non
> existent upstream making quick bugfiox releases i can commit suicide
> 
> On 2020-04-06 10:25, Daniel Urstöger wrote:
> 
> if you can that esaily.... and the uqaliuty of dovecot is also shitty, i
> know one which swicthed, just other rpoblems and never update short
> after a release
> 
> i have implemented 6000 lines of code for backends, automation and
> infrastructure integration back in 2009 and spent hundrest of ours to
> get the fucking 3.0 and 3.1 versions debugged and then upstream
> disappears from one day to another 
> I understand that people are very upset but by now everyone should
> realize that Paul has dropped the project and moved on. Dbmail came
> free and is open source so be happy while it lasted and be grateful to
> Paul, he made an awesome product!
> 
> So whilst the move to GitHub was brilliant its just one of the
> projects which is hard to maintain, as IMAP, LMTP, etc. are not easy
> to understand protocols so it never got much traction there and to be
> honest there are surely not so many C-savvy  people out there these
> days as well as the few pull request that came in didn't get merged
> and there wasn't a successful fork.
> 
> Also since there are alternatives out there that work really well, I
> used courier for many years now and moved to dovecot later on, well,
> there is not much demand for dbmail and if Paul doesn't make a grand
> return, lets face it: dbmail won't progress.
> 
> So, I also spent a great deal of time with dbmail setups and I even
> wrote a whole webmail application for it, which specifically blew away
> roundcube and others because it could fetch data directly from the
> database layer, but well, thats the past lets move on.
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<p>There are no upgrade for the SQL base coming in, so you'll be able go ju=
st upgrade the software without any issue.</p>
<p>Of course it has to be tested a while before switching it in production,=
 but as you can easily see all the commits are basically bug fixs.</p>
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<pre><strong>Andrea Brancatelli
<br /><span style=3D"color: #ff0000;"></span></strong>On 2020-04-06 10:42, =
Reindl Harald wrote:</pre>
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<br /> <br /> Am 06.04.20 um 10:38 schrieb Andrea Brancatelli:
<blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2=
px solid; margin: 0">You all realise there are a lot of commit coming in on=
 GitHub, right?<br /> <br /> <a href=3D"https://github.com/dbmail/dbmail/co=
mmits/master" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer">https://github=
=2Ecom/dbmail/dbmail/commits/master</a></blockquote>
<br /> if nobody manages releases tha don't help much<br /> <br /> given my=
 expierience back when upgrade to 3.0 and especially 3.1 that#s<br /> the r=
eason that i even don't consider update to 3.2<br /> <br /> in both cases 3=
&ouml;0 and 3.1 we had massive issues like completly empty<br /> mails with=
 pop3, all sort of broken mails over imap depending on the<br /> mail body =
at reconstruction and it#s even unclear if all the bugfix fopr<br /> latest=
 3.1 made it to github<br /> <br /> when i face similar issues as with the =
latest point update swith a non<br /> existent upstream making quick bugfio=
x releases i can commit suicide<br /> <br />
<blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2=
px solid; margin: 0">On 2020-04-06 10:25, Daniel Urst&ouml;ger wrote:<br />=
 <br />
<blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2=
px solid; margin: 0">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2=
px solid; margin: 0">if you can that esaily.... and the uqaliuty of dovecot=
 is also shitty, i<br /> know one which swicthed, just other rpoblems and n=
ever update short<br /> after a release<br /> <br /> i have implemented 600=
0 lines of code for backends, automation and<br /> infrastructure integrati=
on back in 2009 and spent hundrest of ours to<br /> get the fucking 3.0 and=
 3.1 versions debugged and then upstream<br /> disappears from one day to a=
nother</blockquote>
<br /> I understand that people are very upset but by now everyone should<b=
r /> realize that Paul has dropped the project and moved on. Dbmail came<br=
 /> free and is open source so be happy while it lasted and be grateful to<=
br /> Paul, he made an awesome product!<br /> <br /> So whilst the move to =
GitHub was brilliant its just one of the<br /> projects which is hard to ma=
intain, as IMAP, LMTP, etc. are not easy<br /> to understand protocols so i=
t never got much traction there and to be<br /> honest there are surely not=
 so many C-savvy &nbsp;people out there these<br /> days as well as the few=
 pull request that came in didn't get merged<br /> and there wasn't a succe=
ssful fork.<br /> <br /> Also since there are alternatives out there that w=
ork really well, I<br /> used courier for many years now and moved to dovec=
ot later on, well,<br /> there is not much demand for dbmail and if Paul do=
esn't make a grand<br /> return, lets face it: dbmail won't progress.<br />=
 <br /> So, I also spent a great deal of time with dbmail setups and I even=
<br /> wrote a whole webmail application for it, which specifically blew aw=
ay<br /> roundcube and others because it could fetch data directly from the=
<br /> database layer, but well, thats the past lets move on.</blockquote>
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