Re: IMAP issue with CONDSTORE
David Rebarchik <[email protected]> Fri, 30 Apr 2021 04:05:02 -0500
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7828463842687973162== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------B986562D8378F0D0C3AE8D85" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B986562D8378F0D0C3AE8D85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Alan, After one day it isn't working. Same symptom as before. I've not put my "modified" version back yet, but probably will soon. When I tested it right after installing the fix, it seemed to work. I sent several test messages and they appeared on the android phone and in Thunderbird as expected. When I "read" them, that updated between devices as expected. But, I noticed at the end of the day that my phone stopped working. The symptom is that my cellphone (using Samsung Mail) stops updating. The only way I've gotten it to update is to remove the mail account and re-add it. But that then only downloads the mail at that point. It still doesn't update. I've not figured out why exactly, but if I modify the advertised features of the IMAP server, it works. I use Thunderbird on my Windows desktop and that has always mostly worked, with my change in the advertised features it sometimes stops updating, but I can close and reopen it and it starts working again. I'm willing to test and provide log files. Just tell me what you need. Thank you for your help. Thanks, Dave On 4/29/2021 9:48 AM, David Rebarchik wrote: > Alan, > > Thank you for the notice that a fix was pushed. I just downloaded and > complied it. My initial testing shows it is fixed. I've installed it > on my production server and will continue to watch. If there is > anything seeming wrong, I'll let you know. > > Thank you very much for spending time on this project. I really love it. > > Thanks, > Dave > > On 4/29/2021 6:02 AM, Alan Hicks wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Is this still an issue? A fix for MODSEQ related to CONDSTORE was >> pushed a few days ago that should have resolved this one. >> >> Kind regards, >> Alan >> >> On 03/04/2021 23:43, David Rebarchik wrote: >>> Bobby, >>> >>> The reason for finally upgrading to a newer version was the TLS >>> support in the newer version. With 2.2 I was able to run things >>> through stunnel, but many clients, Outlook being one, started >>> defaulting to STARTTLS instead of using the SSL port. This caused >>> many of my users trouble setting up accounts on their computers. So, >>> I decided to upgrade so STARTTLS would work. >>> >>> Another reason for upgrading is that I has having trouble compiling >>> the older 2.2 version on a newer OS. The older code needed older >>> libraries and it was getting hard to get them all to work, while >>> upgrading to newer code was easier. >>> >>> When doing the upgrade, the most amount of time was spent doing the >>> header conversion. I recommend adding the entry >>> "header_cache_readonly = yes" to dbmail.conf after you have the >>> needed header name values. On my hardware with the number of >>> messages I had it took over 4 months to do the conversion. (2.6 >>> million messages.) If I had put that line in, it would have taken >>> only a few weeks. >>> >>> During the conversion I had two databases setup, dbmail22 and >>> dbmail3, then added triggers to insert and delete rows when things >>> changed in dbmail22 so the dbmail3 database had all the same >>> messages. This way all my users could still use IMAP and when the >>> conversion was done and tested, I just moved the IP from my old mail >>> server to the new, running the new version, and there was only about >>> half hour of downtime. >>> >>> Other than this issue with CONDSTORE, which happened several weeks >>> after I started using 3.2, I have had little trouble with the basic >>> use of DBMail 3.2. I wish that dbmail-timsieved also supported >>> STARTTLS, but I see that as optional and haven't opened that issue >>> yet. I've also noticed that it takes 3 to 5 seconds to insert a >>> message, which is tolerable for mail delivery, but when an IMAP >>> client is moving messages to the server, it takes a LONG time, but >>> this doesn't happen often. >>> >>> I hope that some of these things help when you decide to upgrade to >>> 3.2. >>> >>> I still need help getting CONDSTORE working again!!! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dave >>> >>> On 4/2/2021 10:46 AM, Bobby wrote: >>>> Re: [Dbmail] IMAP issue with CONDSTORE Hello Dave, >>>> >>>> I am still able to use DBMail 2.2.18 and I must say it's been maybe >>>> even 20 years since the first install. >>>> So, thank you for sharing this info, as I am planning an upgrade >>>> too, and because I have a similar problem with Outlook Mobile since >>>> a 2-3 months (don't remember exactly). >>>> But I am not sure if the reason is not TLS related. >>>> >>>> Please share details once you know more, if they are not provided >>>> in the list. Thank you! >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> Bobby >>>> >>>> Friday, March 19, 2021, 7:51:00 AM, you wrote: >>>> >>>> *> I'm hoping that this list is still active. I've been using >>>> DBMail for 18 >>>> > years, since version 2.0. >>>> >>>> > I've had very little issues with it over the years, but I've >>>> recently >>>> > upgraded from 2.2 to 3.2.5-beta. Everything was working for a few >>>> > weeks, until last Friday. My cell phone stopped getting updates, >>>> while >>>> > Thunderbird was still working fine. I found that when I clear out >>>> the >>>> > account and re-add it I was able to download mail, but it would >>>> never >>>> > update again after that. Similar behavior was happening with the >>>> IMAP >>>> > web client (IMP) I am using. >>>> >>>> > With a lot of digging through detailed log files, I found that it >>>> was >>>> > due to CONDSTORE, so I removed it from the line in dbmail.h #define >>>> > IMAP_CAPABILITY_STRING. After that both the web client and the >>>> mobile >>>> > device seem to "work" but now Thunderbird is acting strange, it >>>> updates >>>> > most of the time, but not all the time. When it stops updating, I >>>> close >>>> > and re-open it, then it refreshes and works for a while. >>>> >>>> > I don't want to leave the system crippled like this. I want it to >>>> work >>>> > efficiently. What could cause CONDSTORE to stop working? It was >>>> fine >>>> > for several weeks. I'm willing to do tests and post log files, >>>> but I'm >>>> > not sure what is needed. >>>> >>>> > Thanks, >>>> > Dave >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > DBmail mailing list >>>> *> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail >>>> <https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Bobby >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> DBmail mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> DBmail mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> DBmail mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail > --------------B986562D8378F0D0C3AE8D85 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> <font face="monospace">Alan,<br> <br> After one day it isn't working. Same symptom as before. I've not put my "modified" version back yet, but probably will soon.<br> <br> When I tested it right after installing the fix, it seemed to work. I sent several test messages and they appeared on the android phone and in Thunderbird as expected. When I "read" them, that updated between devices as expected. But, I noticed at the end of the day that my phone stopped working.<br> <br> The symptom is that my cellphone (using Samsung Mail) stops updating. The only way I've gotten it to update is to remove the mail account and re-add it. But that then only downloads the mail at that point. It still doesn't update. I've not figured out why exactly, but if I modify the advertised features of the IMAP server, it works. I use Thunderbird on my Windows desktop and that has always mostly worked, with my change in the advertised features it sometimes stops updating, but I can close and reopen it and it starts working again.<br> <br> I'm willing to test and provide log files. Just tell me what you need.<br> <br> Thank you for your help.<br> <br> Thanks,<br> Dave<br> </font><br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/29/2021 9:48 AM, David Rebarchik wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:[email protected]"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <font face="monospace">Alan,<br> <br> Thank you for the notice that a fix was pushed. I just downloaded and complied it. My initial testing shows it is fixed. I've installed it on my production server and will continue to watch. If there is anything seeming wrong, I'll let you know.<br> <br> Thank you very much for spending time on this project. I really love it.<br> <br> Thanks,<br> Dave<br> </font><br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/29/2021 6:02 AM, Alan Hicks wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:[email protected]"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <p>Hi,</p> <p> Is this still an issue? A fix for MODSEQ related to CONDSTORE was pushed a few days ago that should have resolved this one.</p> <p>Kind regards,<br> Alan<br> </p> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/04/2021 23:43, David Rebarchik wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:[email protected]"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <font face="monospace">Bobby,<br> <br> The reason for finally upgrading to a newer version was the TLS support in the newer version. With 2.2 I was able to run things through stunnel, but many clients, Outlook being one, started defaulting to STARTTLS instead of using the SSL port. This caused many of my users trouble setting up accounts on their computers. So, I decided to upgrade so STARTTLS would work.<br> <br> Another reason for upgrading is that I has having trouble compiling the older 2.2 version on a newer OS. The older code needed older libraries and it was getting hard to get them all to work, while upgrading to newer code was easier.<br> <br> When doing the upgrade, the most amount of time was spent doing the header conversion. I recommend adding the entry "header_cache_readonly = yes" to dbmail.conf after you have the needed header name values. On my hardware with the number of messages I had it took over 4 months to do the conversion. (2.6 million messages.) If I had put that line in, it would have taken only a few weeks.<br> <br> During the conversion I had two databases setup, dbmail22 and dbmail3, then added triggers to insert and delete rows when things changed in dbmail22 so the dbmail3 database had all the same messages. This way all my users could still use IMAP and when the conversion was done and tested, I just moved the IP from my old mail server to the new, running the new version, and there was only about half hour of downtime.<br> <br> Other than this issue with CONDSTORE, which happened several weeks after I started using 3.2, I have had little trouble with the basic use of DBMail 3.2. I wish that dbmail-timsieved also supported STARTTLS, but I see that as optional and haven't opened that issue yet. I've also noticed that it takes 3 to 5 seconds to insert a message, which is tolerable for mail delivery, but when an IMAP client is moving messages to the server, it takes a LONG time, but this doesn't happen often.<br> </font><font face="monospace"><font face="monospace"><br> I hope that some of these things help when you decide to upgrade to 3.2. <br> <br> I still need help getting CONDSTORE working again!!!<br> <br> </font>Thanks,<br> Dave<br> </font><br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/2/2021 10:46 AM, Bobby wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:[email protected]"> <title>Re: [Dbmail] IMAP issue with CONDSTORE</title> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <span style=" font-family:'Calibri'; font-size: 11pt;">Hello Dave,<br> <br> I am still able to use DBMail 2.2.18 and I must say it's been maybe even 20 years since the first install. <br> So, thank you for sharing this info, as I am planning an upgrade too, and because I have a similar problem with Outlook Mobile since a 2-3 months (don't remember exactly).<br> But I am not sure if the reason is not TLS related.<br> <br> Please share details once you know more, if they are not provided in the list. Thank you!<br> <br> <br> Kind regards,<br> Bobby<br> <br> Friday, March 19, 2021, 7:51:00 AM, you wrote:<br> <br> <span style=" color: #800000;"><b>> I'm hoping that this list is still active. I've been using DBMail for 18 <br> > years, since version 2.0.<br> <br> > I've had very little issues with it over the years, but I've recently <br> > upgraded from 2.2 to 3.2.5-beta. Everything was working for a few <br> > weeks, until last Friday. My cell phone stopped getting updates, while <br> > Thunderbird was still working fine. I found that when I clear out the <br> > account and re-add it I was able to download mail, but it would never <br> > update again after that. Similar behavior was happening with the IMAP <br> > web client (IMP) I am using.<br> <br> > With a lot of digging through detailed log files, I found that it was <br> > due to CONDSTORE, so I removed it from the line in dbmail.h #define <br> > IMAP_CAPABILITY_STRING. After that both the web client and the mobile <br> > device seem to "work" but now Thunderbird is acting strange, it updates <br> > most of the time, but not all the time. When it stops updating, I close <br> > and re-open it, then it refreshes and works for a while.<br> <br> > I don't want to leave the system crippled like this. I want it to work <br> > efficiently. What could cause CONDSTORE to stop working? It was fine <br> > for several weeks. I'm willing to do tests and post log files, but I'm <br> > not sure what is needed.<br> <br> > Thanks,<br> > Dave<br> > _______________________________________________<br> > DBmail mailing list<br> </b></span></span><a style=" font-family:'calibri'; font-size: 11pt;" href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true">> [email protected]</a><br> <a style=" font-family:'calibri'; font-size: 11pt;" href="https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail" moz-do-not-send="true">> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail</a><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <span style=" font-family:'Calibri'; font-size: 11pt;">Best regards,<br> Bobby<br> </span><a style=" font-family:'calibri'; font-size: 11pt;" href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________ DBmail mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> <br> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________ DBmail mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail</a> </pre> </blockquote> <div class="moz-signature"><br> </div> <br> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________ DBmail mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------B986562D8378F0D0C3AE8D85-- --===============7828463842687973162== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KREJtYWlsIG1h aWxpbmcgbGlzdApEQm1haWxAbGlzdHMubmZnLm5sCmh0dHBzOi8vbGlzdHMubmZnLm5sL2NnaS1i aW4vbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9kYm1haWwK --===============7828463842687973162==--