Re: [Imap-protocol] Is there some way to detect servers which automatically add sent messages to the Sent mailbox?

I haven’t tested it, but I hear that FastMail, Tuffmail, Gmail, 126, and 163 all do this.  (Some of those may have since stopped, my data’s a bit old.)

Ian

On Jan 14, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Timo Sirainen <[email protected]> wrote:

> I doubt you could get such DATA response a) standardized and especially
> b) implemented by server admins. Or are you thinking about some specific
> large email provider that does this? I'm not aware of any provider that
> does this.
> 
> I think BURL is going to become much more available at least in server
> side within a few years.
> 
> On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 00:05 -0800, Ian Anderson wrote:
>> Oh yeah, I didn’t think about BURL.  Bleargh.  Searching for the
>> message in the Sent mailbox after sending seems rather error prone.
>> What if it takes ten minutes for the message to show up
>> automatically?  Maybe an extended SMTP status code from the DATA
>> command would make sense on servers that are going to do the append
>> for you though?
>> 
>> 
>> Ian
>> 
>> On Jan 13, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Hoà V. Dinh <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Maybe you could detect the IMAP server you're dealing with and
>>> behaves accordingly to its behaviour. 
>>> An other solution could be to FETCH in the Sent mailbox after the
>>> mail has been sent.
>>> And match the message based on the Message-ID, then, decide whether
>>> you really need to APPEND the message.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Hoà V. Dinh
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 13, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Dave Cridland <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> No, there isn't, as far as I know. You can, on some systems, tell
>>> which is the Sent mailbox, and you could watch it for a new message,
>>> I suppose. I bet systems supporting special use mailboxes don't do
>>> the automatic append, though.
>>> 
>>> On other systems, the "correct" method for sending a message is to
>>> first append it, and then submit by BURL.
>>> 
>>> Finally, Alexey had a postaddress extension which allowed you to do
>>> the append by using a special address during submission.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>> 
>>> On Sunday, January 13, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Ian Anderson wrote:
>>>> I suppose this might be more likely as an SMTP response code
>>>> (though I can’t find a defined one) than an IMAP capability or
>>>> some such, but maybe someone on this list knows anyway?
>>>> <wishful_thinking>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ian
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 13, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Ian Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve noticed that in some systems when you send a message via
>>>>> SMTP, it will put a copy in the user’s Sent mailbox. Most of
>>>>> them don’t however, necessitating that I do an IMAP APPEND to
>>>>> get the message in Sent. Is there a good/any way to tell when
>>>>> the APPEND is necessary? Right now I’m doing it all the time
>>>>> which is resulting in double copies in the Sent mailbox for
>>>>> systems that do it automatically.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ian

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